Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-07 Thread Edwin F
On Apr 4, 2005 2:49 AM, Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The extra keys do nothing under Linux, but take up more space on the > desk because the keyboard case is bigger. It's possible to get them to do something if you play around a bit with xev and xmodmap...

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread John Carter
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, david merriman wrote: On 4/04/2005 1:06:00 p.m., Volker Kuhlmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If you know of some place selling the Microsoft ergonomic keyboards (the one without all the extra media crap keys on it) with a USB connector please let me know. How about these ? Not

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Carl Cerecke
Richard Tindall wrote: You may be able to salvage it still. Usually the plastic key caps can be popped off quite easily with a fine screwdriver or similar. Then you need a small, recycled pump aerosol bottle (ex-perfume or similar) filled with isapropyl alcohol (IPA - try the chemist's). A squir

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Richard Tindall
Carl Cerecke wrote: Sadly, my model M developed an intermittent fault where some keys are simply not registered. Took it apart (not quite as easy as it sounds) and resoldered the joints, but no luck. Every so often, some keys simply cease registering. A sad day. My faith in the Model M's has be

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 14:49 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > The extra keys do nothing under Linux, but take up more space on the > desk because the keyboard case is bigger. They can do things for me. I have a lot of the extra Sun keys bound to sensible things under GNOME: Help launches the help bro

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Not the Microsoft keyboard, Uhhhm, what a pity... :) > but also very good, the Sun Type 6 Keyboard > (Part X3566A for US$81.15 from Sun) can also be found on EBay. Thanks for the tip!(And the Belkin one too.) > However, I suspect the extra keys may annoy you, Volker :) The extra keys do

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> > Yes, and the DIN plugs sucked then too. > > Their one advantage being you couldn't confuse the mouse and the > keyboard slots. Not sure what's so sucky about them. Their other advantage is they're hotpluggable (when attached to PC keyboards). Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is po

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 13:06 +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > If you know of some place selling the Microsoft ergonomic keyboards Not the Microsoft keyboard, but also very good, the Sun Type 6 Keyboard (Part X3566A for US$81.15 from Sun) can also be found on EBay. However, I suspect the extra keys ma

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread david merriman
On 4/04/2005 1:06:00 p.m., Volker Kuhlmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > If you know of some place selling the Microsoft ergonomic keyboards (the > one without all the extra media crap keys on it) with a USB connector > please let me know. > How about these ? Not Microsoft, but similar : http:/

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, April 4, 2005 1:07 pm, Nick Rout said: > > On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:06:27 +1200 > Michael JasonSmith wrote: > >> On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 12:58 +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: >> > err... we're talking about the late 80's, when the only other option >> was a >> > 5 pin DIN plug, like on the PC-AT,

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:06:27 +1200 Michael JasonSmith wrote: > On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 12:58 +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: > > err... we're talking about the late 80's, when the only other option was a > > 5 pin DIN plug, like on the PC-AT, where there keyboards originated to the > > best of my (alc

RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 12:58 +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: > err... we're talking about the late 80's, when the only other option was a > 5 pin DIN plug, like on the PC-AT, where there keyboards originated to the > best of my (alcohol decimated) memory. Yes, and the DIN plugs sucked then too. -- Mic

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> USB keyboards are a lot better than PS/2 keyboards. In terms of connection type, yes. Pity it's impossible to buy any useful ones though. The only USB keyboard I've been able to find on sale is some disgustingly crappy silver-coloured mobile job with the keys in every place but the expected one,

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Brad Beveridge
Just to add to your rant about plugs... At the office we have some harddrive enclosures that output 12V and 5V on a plug that looks suspiciously like a PS/2 plug. Upon closer inspection, this power plug is infact a PS/2 plug and happily plugs into any PS/2 socket - there would be much wailing a

RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Steve Holdoway
t; -Original Message- > From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 12:55 p.m. > To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz > Subject: Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI > > > C. Falconer wrote: > >> Just remember - in another 10 ye

RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread C. Falconer
@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI C. Falconer wrote: > Just remember - in another 10 years it'll be wireless sometechnology, > and this USB stuff that needs Actual Physical Work will be laughed at > too :) > > ...and the model M will still be

RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, April 4, 2005 12:01 pm, Michael JasonSmith said: > On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 11:39 +1200, C. Falconer wrote: >> Why not Steve? > > The PS/2 plug is the work of El Diablo. It is a round plug — > like a RCA, RF or 3.5mm mini-pin. However, unlike those plugs, > there is o

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Anyway - it doesn't often damage things... No, but when it does, you're ***ed. I moved my computer once and started to plug everything in, not noticing that it had turned itself on, and then plugged the mouse and keyboard in. 1999 mobo vintage. Fried the mouse port on the mobo good and proper, a

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Carl Cerecke
C. Falconer wrote: Just remember - in another 10 years it'll be wireless sometechnology, and this USB stuff that needs Actual Physical Work will be laughed at too :) ...and the model M will still be working... Sadly, my model M developed an intermittent fault where some keys are simply not registe

RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 12:08 +1200, C. Falconer wrote: > ...and the model M will still be working... As will my Sun Type 5 (USB)â -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/

RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread C. Falconer
eless sometechnology, and this USB stuff that needs Actual Physical Work will be laughed at too :) ...and the model M will still be working... -Original Message- From: Michael JasonSmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 12:02 p.m. To: linux users Subject: RE: OT: IBM

RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 11:39 +1200, C. Falconer wrote: > Why not Steve? The PS/2 plug is the work of El Diablo. It is a round plug â like a RCA, RF or 3.5mm mini-pin. However, unlike those plugs, there is only one way to plug in a PS/2 plug, which is not easy to do a

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:29:33 +1200 (NZST) Steve Holdoway wrote: > > On Mon, April 4, 2005 11:01 am, Chris Downie said: > > Last year there was a discussion on the merits of various keyboards. > > Several listers were extolling the virtues of the old IBM 'clicky' > > keyboard. There is a trader o

RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread C. Falconer
Monday, 4 April 2005 11:30 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI On Mon, April 4, 2005 11:01 am, Chris Downie said: > Last year there was a discussion on the merits of various keyboards. > Several listers were extolling the virt

Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, April 4, 2005 11:01 am, Chris Downie said: > Last year there was a discussion on the merits of various keyboards. > Several listers were extolling the virtues of the old IBM 'clicky' > keyboard. There is a trader on Trade Me offering brand new ones for sale > here: > http://www.trademe.co.