RE: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Craig FALCONER
al Message- From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 10:59 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Telstra cable usage downloader > Yeah - unfortunately I use the 192.168./16 range both at work and at home. Why'd you make it /16? I

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> > 172.16.0.31:138 -> 172.16.0.255:138, hmmm. > > This is in the non-broadcast class b address range... 172.16.0.0/12. > Are you sure this interface is a /24 subnet? No, no way of knowing. Come to think of it, as they need one 172. per customer, they probably used all the available space. And the

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Yeah - unfortunately I use the 192.168./16 range both at work and at home. Why'd you make it /16? I mean, do you have more than 254 boxes at home? And then I never understood why people willingly type 1 9 2. bummer what was that number again, when they could just be typing 10.0.0 > Got to wond

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Steve Holdoway
> Put a non-log rule in [1]. I get IGMP from 172.16.0.5, which is > in the 172.16/16 of my cable modem's HFC address [2], but not in its > 172.../24. I assume it's from Telstra, if it's from a sad customer, > Telstra shouldn't be routing it. But then I get udp > 172.16.0.31:138 -> 172.16.0.255:1

RE: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Craig FALCONER
e 172.* addresses. -Original Message- From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 10:24 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Telstra cable usage downloader [2] Stick a static route 192.168.100.0/24 gateway x.y.z.1 (your gateway address) into your r

RE: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Craig FALCONER
ac.nz Subject: Re: Telstra cable usage downloader On Thu, 25 May 2006 09:01, you wrote: > Interestingly, there are dhcp answers being handed out on the cable, > by 172.20.18.55 > Yes, I noticed that, when I was fiddling (since I have a fixed IP from Telstra I don't need their dhcp.) A

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> My home IP is 203.97.119.201 so anything outside of 203.97.119 should be > charged. Looks like their upstream router allows layer2 (arp etc) through > without charging, and probably broadcast layer 3 (dhcp/bootp) Yes, and IGMP. Probably all the lower level "glue" protocols are uncharged. Hmm, h

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Andrew Errington
On Thu, 25 May 2006 09:01, you wrote: > Well its most definitely not in my /24 > > My home IP is 203.97.119.201 so anything outside of 203.97.119 should be > charged. Looks like their upstream router allows layer2 (arp etc) > through without charging, and probably broadcast layer 3 (dhcp/bootp) >

RE: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Craig FALCONER
handed out on the cable, by 172.20.18.55 -Original Message- From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 9:57 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Telstra cable usage downloader > This traffic is not accounted for as part of your traf

RE: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Craig FALCONER
Dwoops sorry http://criggie.dyndns.org/pfsense/2hours.png -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 4:43 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Telstra cable usage downloader On Wed, 24 May 2006 16:33:10 +1200 Craig

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Not really. mrtg was originally designed to monitor ethernet ports. > There's no difference between monitoring the outgoing port on the > switch/server or the incoming port on the cable modem. If the modem is transparent, you're right. However, that number is of literally no use - it includes al

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> volker i belong to the nz adsl/broadband mailiong list, although i > rarely read it. I'll scan my archives for you, see if anyone has > mentioned this. Thanks but no need, I'm subscribed too. The broadband hadn't had a post in a year, the adsl one doesn't usually discuss cable, it's fairly quiet

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:24:37 +1200 Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2006 21:57:21 +1200 > Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:44 +1200 > > Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > ... if you're that worried, look at the thresh

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 24 May 2006 21:57:21 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:44 +1200 > Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ... if you're that worried, look at the thresholding options in mrtg/rrd, > > and shut it down automatically. > > > begin chicken egg r

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:44 +1200 Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... if you're that worried, look at the thresholding options in mrtg/rrd, and > shut it down automatically. begin chicken egg repeat volker needs to get the data first. volker i belong to the nz adsl/broadband mail

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Another issue - at home I have a continual background noise level of 100 > kbit/sec. > > This data is mostly ARP traffic from a bunch of misconfigured windows boxes, > plus IPP advertising and just plain crap. This, up to the last electron on the "i", is exactly how I would describe it too. The

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread Steve Holdoway
... if you're that worried, look at the thresholding options in mrtg/rrd, and shut it down automatically. On Wed, 24 May 2006 16:05:39 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I went the other way and am taking daily stamps of traffic in and out > > of the eth1 interface (yes, I us

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-24 Thread David Mann
On May 24, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Craig FALCONER wrote: Another issue - at home I have a continual background noise level of 100 kbit/sec. This data is mostly ARP traffic from a bunch of misconfigured windows boxes, plus IPP advertising and just plain crap. This traffic is not accounted for as

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 24 May 2006 16:33:10 +1200 Craig FALCONER wrote: > This traffic is not accounted for as part of your traffic cap. > > http://criggie.dyndns.org/crap/2hours.png 404 -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 24 May 2006 15:56:53 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > >First issue: how do I ssl-decode the ethereal-captured exchange between > > >my browser and telstra? > > > > Don't. That's the Wrong Way. > > Not for implementing the program of course, but for finding out what's > going on in the f

RE: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Craig FALCONER
/2hours.png -Original Message- From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 3:49 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Telstra cable usage downloader I went the other way and am taking daily stamps of traffic in and out of the eth1

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> I went the other way and am taking daily stamps of traffic in and out > of the eth1 interface (yes, I use the ethernet port on the DSL > modem). One more reason to ditch a dedicated firewall (like ipcop, etc) and use a general Linux distro instead. I know what's there, and I can install the

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> >First issue: how do I ssl-decode the ethereal-captured exchange between > >my browser and telstra? > > Don't. That's the Wrong Way. Not for implementing the program of course, but for finding out what's going on in the first place. Understanding how the CGI thingy works is a must. Using wget o

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread David Mann
I went the other way and am taking daily stamps of traffic in and out of the eth1 interface (yes, I use the ethernet port on the DSL modem). Rather than look for a ready-made solution, I threw something together which puts the data into MySQL then formats a basic chart using PHP for the de

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 24/05/06, Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope - but if you find something please let us all know. First issue: how do I ssl-decode the ethereal-captured exchange between my browser and telstra? Don't. That's the Wrong Way.

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Carl Cerecke
Here's the URL. Might be a bit heavyweight though. http://wiki.openqa.org/display/SEL/Home On 24/05/06, Carl Cerecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or you might try selenium.

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Carl Cerecke
Or you might try selenium. On 24/05/06, Carl Cerecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've used mechanoid to get usage details for Maxnet. You might be able to work something up for telstraclear. http://python.org/pypi/mechanoid Here it is (with username/password etails changed): #!/usr/bin/env pyth

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Nope - but if you find something please let us all know. I'll have a go at it if no-one has yet started (and it'll be GPL). First issue: how do I ssl-decode the ethereal-captured exchange between my browser and telstra? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the

Re: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Carl Cerecke
I've used mechanoid to get usage details for Maxnet. You might be able to work something up for telstraclear. http://python.org/pypi/mechanoid Here it is (with username/password etails changed): #!/usr/bin/env python import mechanoid, sys, HTMLParser class TimeParser(HTMLParser.HTMLParser):

RE: Telstra cable usage downloader

2006-05-23 Thread Craig FALCONER
Nope - but if you find something please let us all know. -Original Message- From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 1:56 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Telstra cable usage downloader Has anyone written a usa