Re: time drift

2007-09-23 Thread Chevhq Car
I have had a similar problem with mobos in the past. A gigabyte board as I remember. fixed it by replacing the battery. Cheers Chris T = = = Original message = = = Disappointingly the clock is back to drifting again, so a cron job every 10 minutes it is . . . The board in question is an Asus M2N

Re: time drift

2007-09-23 Thread Christopher Sawtell
I'm reliably informed that clock drift problems with NVIDIA nForce chip-sets are fixed in the Ubuntu distribution. On 9/24/07, Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Disappointingly the clock is back to drifting again, so a cron job every > 10 minutes it is . . . > > The board in question is a

Re: time drift

2007-09-23 Thread Roger Searle
Disappointingly the clock is back to drifting again, so a cron job every 10 minutes it is . . . The board in question is an Asus M2N which has been fine in all other regards. Roger Roger Searle wrote: I'm pleased to report that time on that box is no longer drifting. So I won't need to im

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Whopee! I ended up with custom kernels, weird boot parameters and allsorts > to get mine working. In the end, I think it was a kernel update that fixed > it. Just a poor choice of motherboard I on my part I think. And the mobo make and model yadda yadda is? To save us the same grief. Volke

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Roger Searle
Steve Holdoway wrote: If that is the case then I expect that you'll find that there's a call to ntpdate in the start section of /etc/init.d/ntp, as this functionality is *not* a part of the ntp daemon. Yes there are. So now I can make sense of the apparently conflicting replies from you an

Re: Memory > 3G (was Re: time drift)

2007-09-18 Thread Andrew Errington
Ooh! A hijack! The "3Gb barrier" was discussed at Dan's Data: http://www.dansdata.com/askdan00015.htm I only skimmed the article, but it might shed some light on the issue. A On Wed, September 19, 2007 10:04, Carl Cerecke wrote: > Hi Steve, > > > What was the symptoms with > 3G memory? Did th

Re: Memory > 3G (was Re: time drift)

2007-09-18 Thread Steve Holdoway
64 bit kernel - to the best of my understanding, a lot of the device drivers ( well, graphics ards at least ) map their own physical memory to the area just above the 32 bit limit, and when the kernel tries to access it too I'm sure someone will have a more exact description of what's happen

Memory > 3G (was Re: time drift)

2007-09-18 Thread Carl Cerecke
Hi Steve, What was the symptoms with > 3G memory? Did the crashes happen on boot up? Or randomly? I ask because I have a machine here (dual-core Intel, 4GB mem) that has occasional hard freezes (all frozen. No kbd or even ping response). I thought it might be the nvidia driver (using the latest

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:24:57 +1200 Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Holdoway wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:27:47 +1200 > > Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> I'm pleased to report that time on that box is no longer drifting. So I > >> won't need to implement o

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Roger Searle
Steve Holdoway wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:27:47 +1200 Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm pleased to report that time on that box is no longer drifting. So I won't need to implement one of these options, and will give some thought to the "no" answer to point 1. Thanks to everyon

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:27:47 +1200 Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm pleased to report that time on that box is no longer drifting. So I > won't need to implement one of these options, and will give some thought > to the "no" answer to point 1. > > Thanks to everyone for their replies

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Roger Searle
I'm pleased to report that time on that box is no longer drifting. So I won't need to implement one of these options, and will give some thought to the "no" answer to point 1. Thanks to everyone for their replies. Roger Steve Holdoway wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:15:21 +1200 Roger Searle <

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:15:21 +1200 Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so 2 options seem to be valid: > > 1. if the drift is small enough between the frequent ntp restarts > then"service ntp restart" will suffice. No. This is still incorrect. > > 2. "service ntp stop && ntpdate ntp.massey

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Roger Searle
so 2 options seem to be valid: 1. if the drift is small enough between the frequent ntp restarts then"service ntp restart" will suffice. 2. "service ntp stop && ntpdate ntp.massey.ac.nz && service ntp start" will cover drifts beyond what ever the ntp maximum adjustment is. Do I have my head

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Historically, ntpdate was run once as a part of the ntpd init script, It still is, on SUSE anyway. You can't reliably start up ntpd without running ntpdate (or the equivalent) first, so there's about as much argument for leaving it in the ntpd script as there is for separating it. Volker -- V

Re: time drift

2007-09-18 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:48:38 +1200 Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll see what date shows me tomorrow. Google tells me that some people > have resolved this issue by appending "noapic acpi=off" to grub. If I > am still getting nowhere then I believe having cron do "service ntp stop >

Re: time drift

2007-09-17 Thread Roger Searle
Thanks to everyone for all the replies, very useful. I was unclear about the difference between ntpdate and ntpd. Kernel version on the problematic machine was up to date. I have altered the installation source to include the nvidia drivers, checked for all updates, turned off the IPCop box anno

Re: time drift

2007-09-17 Thread Simon Lyall
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Roger Searle wrote: > I could be missing something obvious, so would be interested in any > suggestions from anyone about resolving this? I had a batch of machines with something similar a few years back. The problem was that the CPU fan went a different speeds according to th

Re: time drift

2007-09-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Mon 17 Sep 2007 16:41:06 NZST +1200, Robert Fisher wrote: > I just use the KDE setup these days and it seems to work for me. > > Right click the KDE clock and select "adjust date and time" > > Tick "set time and date automatically" and choose a server > (I use ntp.massey.ac.nz) Hmmm. Ok, th

Re: time drift

2007-09-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Mon 17 Sep 2007 15:40:29 NZST +1200, Roger Searle wrote: > My potentially groundless assumption is that because the motherboard is > new, that the battery is good. Good assumption. As that battery is only used to hold the time in the CMOS clock while the computer is powered off, don't waste a

Re: time drift

2007-09-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Hi, I have a SuSE 64bit install on an Asus M2N motherboard, and I recall > others having (unresolvable?) time drift issues with a 64bit > installation. Those problems were solved some time ago. The issue was something to do with kernel timekeeping and certain versions of AMD 64bit CPUs

Re: time drift

2007-09-16 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:41:06 +1200 Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 17 September 2007 12:48 pm, Roger Searle wrote: > > > > > I could be missing something obvious, so would be interested in any > > suggestions from anyone about resolving this? > > I just use the KDE setup the

Re: time drift

2007-09-16 Thread Robert Fisher
On Monday 17 September 2007 12:48 pm, Roger Searle wrote: > > I could be missing something obvious, so would be interested in any > suggestions from anyone about resolving this? I just use the KDE setup these days and it seems to work for me. Right click the KDE clock and select "adjust date and

Re: time drift

2007-09-16 Thread Roger Searle
id, 10.2.1.1 is the IPCop box. Also, there had been one >> or more ntp restarts on the 11th and 12th. Strange that there are no >> log entries over the weekend, uptime is 18 days. >> >> Roger Searle wrote: >> >>> Hi, I have a SuSE 64bit install on an Asus M

Re: time drift

2007-09-16 Thread Christopher Sawtell
board, and I recall > > others having (unresolvable?) time drift issues with a 64bit > > installation. Perhaps the common factor was nvidia chipsets, but I could > > be making that up. It is losing something like an hour a day. > > > > ntpd is running and getting time from an IPCop

Re: time drift

2007-09-16 Thread Roger Searle
others having (unresolvable?) time drift issues with a 64bit > installation. Perhaps the common factor was nvidia chipsets, but I could > be making that up. It is losing something like an hour a day. > > ntpd is running and getting time from an IPCop box. Yet the time > reported by

time drift

2007-09-16 Thread Roger Searle
Hi, I have a SuSE 64bit install on an Asus M2N motherboard, and I recall others having (unresolvable?) time drift issues with a 64bit installation. Perhaps the common factor was nvidia chipsets, but I could be making that up. It is losing something like an hour a day. ntpd is running and getting