Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-09 Thread Collins
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:37:28 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have (or am in the process of completing) switched to Gentoo at > home. I'could' even do this on my workstation at work. > > However, as nice as Gentoo is, I don't see how it could be used in a > production environm

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-09 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
I have (or am in the process of completing) switched to Gentoo at home. I 'could' even do this on my workstation at work. However, as nice as Gentoo is, I don't see how it could be used in a production environment. Meaning that the install phase is very intensive. We could not do this on every cus

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Checkinstall is my friend ,too . I've used it a lot. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > And that's why I like checkinstall. It allows me to create a > Slackware, RPM or Debian script file for tracking those tars I install. > > On Saturday 07 December 2002 7:44 pm, Brett I.

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-08 Thread Robert Black Eagle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And that's why I like checkinstall. It allows me to create a Slackware, RPM or Debian script file for tracking those tars I install. On Saturday 07 December 2002 7:44 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: > I like the RPM system for tracking, too and that's j

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I've about decided to try Gentoo. I built my new system (dual Athlon 1.9s, SCSI RAID) and in addition to RH 7.3 I left three spare partitions for trying other distros. Gentoo appears to be a good approach and I don't have the new system at the point where there is anything critical on it. I b

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Tom Jandl
Brett, I think the best bet in your case is to free up some extra disk space and try Gentoo on a spare partition. I still boot mine from grub on my eWS3.11 partition. Once you are through the pain of the initial installation, I'm sure you will be pleased. Have you ever tried to build Evolution on a

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 08:23:59PM +, Collins wrote: .. >I have nothing against RPM per se, but I have yet to find the distro >that has a large selection of RPMs for general purpose packages that >are kept up to date. It's probably a good plea for the LFS, because >most RPMs won't work on more

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Collins
On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 20:44:02 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the RPM system for tracking, too and that's just one of the > reasons I left Caldera (or am leaving) - there weren't that many > RPMs for it! > > > We build a fair number or systems for customers, and I reall

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I like the RPM system for tracking, too and that's just one of the reasons I left Caldera (or am leaving) - there weren't that many RPMs for it! > We build a fair number or systems for customers, and I really want a > distribution that lends itself to easy system replication. One of my > biggest

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 01:35:24PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: >That sounds good. > >One reason I use RPM is to track what's installed on my system. Does >Portage let you see what you have and what version ala rpm -q? The main reason I like RPMS is that they make it pretty easy to update runn

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you for the offer - I'll probably take you up on it! I will probably give it a try. I believe that Gentoos approach would fit the way I work. I normally install Linux and then only upgrade when I have to - I do try and keep up with a stable kernel but I don't do everyone. As for apps t

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Collins
On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 14:13:30 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [ snips ] > > > > On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:52:09 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I had some time yesterday and spent it browsing the Gentoo web > >site> and came up with a question

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
> [ snips ] > > On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:52:09 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I had some time yesterday and spent it browsing the Gentoo web site >> and came up with a question about the updates. > >> how is the availablity of packages for Gentoo? >> > > Several choic

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks. That sounds good. > > In a word, yes. Once you are up and running on gentoo, emerge the > gentoolkit package, and you can query the packages easily. There is > even a KDE/QT based gui interface to portage). > > Or, if you like simple *nix tools, just 'find /var/db/pkg -name > "*.ebuild

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Collins
On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:35:24 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That sounds good. > > One reason I use RPM is to track what's installed on my system. > Does Portage let you see what you have and what version ala rpm -q? > > > I switched from Caldera to Gentoo because of the pa

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
That sounds good. One reason I use RPM is to track what's installed on my system. Does Portage let you see what you have and what version ala rpm -q? > I switched from Caldera to Gentoo because of the package availability > problem. So far Gentoo developers have not disappointed me. It seems >

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I've been doing that with Caldera and RH - use freshmeat and get the SRPMs and build them for my system. If the SRPM is not available I use checkinstall to make an RPM and install it. My concern about Gentoo is that it uses a "non standard" - note the quotes!!! - system as compared to RH and

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Collins
[ snips ] On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:52:09 -0500 "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had some time yesterday and spent it browsing the Gentoo web site > and came up with a question about the updates. > how is the availablity of packages for Gentoo? As far as distros go, Gentoo has on

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Ted Ozolins
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I had some time yesterday and spent it browsing the Gentoo web site and came up with a question about the updates. Since I usually install a distro and then modify it as needed it sounds like Gentoo might be worth me taking a look at. I see that Gentoo uses a modifie

Re: Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Tom Jandl
I switched from Caldera to Gentoo because of the package availability problem. So far Gentoo developers have not disappointed me. It seems like a week or two after something new comes out there is a Gentoo ebuild available for it, sometimes even sooner. There is a package list and a daily changelog

Gentoo Questions

2002-12-07 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I had some time yesterday and spent it browsing the Gentoo web site and came up with a question about the updates. Since I usually install a distro and then modify it as needed it sounds like Gentoo might be worth me taking a look at. I see that Gentoo uses a modified ports system according