iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Jiri Kosina
Hi, I just booted current Linus' tree (5faa0154fe33) on my x200s thinkpad, and wifi doesn't work. iwconfig is telling me that wlan0 interface has no wireless extensions. Previous kernel that is known to work on this machine is 3.18-rc5. I can do a bisect if needed, but wanted to ask in case th

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Emmanuel Grumbach
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > Hi, > > I just booted current Linus' tree (5faa0154fe33) on my x200s thinkpad, and > wifi doesn't work. iwconfig is telling me that wlan0 interface has no > wireless extensions. > So why do you used them? They have been deprecated for a coup

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Peter Hurley
On 12/30/2014 09:23 AM, Emmanuel Grumbach wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I just booted current Linus' tree (5faa0154fe33) on my x200s thinkpad, and >> wifi doesn't work. iwconfig is telling me that wlan0 interface has no >> wireless extensions. >> > >

RE: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Grumbach, Emmanuel
> > On 12/30/2014 09:23 AM, Emmanuel Grumbach wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I just booted current Linus' tree (5faa0154fe33) on my x200s > >> thinkpad, and wifi doesn't work. iwconfig is telling me that wlan0 > >> interface has no wireless

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Emmanuel Grumbach wrote: > > I just booted current Linus' tree (5faa0154fe33) on my x200s thinkpad, and > > wifi doesn't work. iwconfig is telling me that wlan0 interface has no > > wireless extensions. > > So why do you used them? > They have been deprecated for a couple of

RE: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > > > So why do you used them? > > > They have been deprecated for a couple of years now. You should be > > > using nl80211 based tools such as iw. > > > > A couple of years is not very long where userspace is concerned. > > > Well - the decently ne

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Grumbach, Emmanuel
On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 16:21 +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote: > On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > > > > > So why do you used them? > > > > They have been deprecated for a couple of years now. You should be > > > > using nl80211 based tools such as iw. > > > > > > A couple of years is not v

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > You should also have the iw tool which will provide all you need > using the nl80211 interface which is now the preferred interface. There indeed is an iw tool. The thing is really as simple as -- userspace which is calling other wireless-utils d

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Borislav Petkov
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 09:41:41PM +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote: > If wireless maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert request to > Linus for consideration. I wonder if the reaction would be like this one: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 :-) -- Regards/Gruss, Boris. Sent from a fa

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Larry Finger
On 12/30/2014 03:23 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 09:41:41PM +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote: If wireless maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert request to Linus for consideration. I wonder if the reaction would be like this one: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 :-)

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Larry Finger wrote: > > > If wireless maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert request to > > > Linus for consideration. > > > > I wonder if the reaction would be like this one: > > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 > > > > :-) > > It would be a little like th

RE: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Grumbach, Emmanuel
> > On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Larry Finger wrote: > > > > > If wireless maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert > > > > request to Linus for consideration. > > > > > > I wonder if the reaction would be like this one: > > > > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 > > > > > > :-) > > > > It wo

RE: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-31 Thread Sujith Manoharan
Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > I don't see this as another datapoint. All it means is that there are ancient > drivers that won't work at all with newer tools and that are taken into > consideration while trying to deprecate an API. Not just drivers, tools and applications too. I don't think we can

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-31 Thread Borislav Petkov
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 07:50:19AM +, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > Now - basically all your argument is on Johannes's comment: > "deprecated enough". I think we have a chicken and egg problem here. > We can't break things towards userland. Good. But we do want to > deprecate this API because lot