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As the title implies I went to the Wiki to work out how to download
everything to bring myself into synch. It happens that the ones for
the old CVS storage need to be revised. Sometime ago those crazy
people at Source Forge rewrote the mechanisms behind the root for CVS
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(Being sent only to the new list address)
Folks, here's a very strange situation. I currently have here two disk
on chip devices. One is a 2 MB device, according to M-Sys, that one
has been discontinued for many years, probably before I had heard
about the Linux
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Funny you should be bringing that up now.
HP is holding a road show on the state of the art as applied to the
Alpha, and relatives, here in NYC, tomorrow Wednesday the 15.
They have already told me, that the EV7z processors will stay active
at least until something runs
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Richard your statement, "There is also a softboot program for the DRI
project. I tried to mess with it but it currently requires devmapper
to do the ROM mapping it didn't want to work for me."
It sounds interesting to me, here, but I only have access to
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Ron, Dave, is this something that became part of the basic 2.6 series
kernel? I looked at the website that Dave suggested, and it looks to
be something that makes sense. However, I'm wrapped up in something
else, and I can't test a 2.6 kernel for a while.
I s
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Nice discovery Bruce. I hope your project works out.
Now my display of witt.
Richard, Bruce, everyone go ahead and laugh, but the 440 chipset is one of
my favorites. In fact the Del that I'm writing this on, happens to be a 440.
Someday I'll swap the
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Tony are you accessing the CVS storage via the instructions on the
regular Linux BIOS website? Or on the Source Forge instructions page?
Of the two the Source Forge instructions page are correct. And in fact
I just checked, these pages, the ones at
http://sourceforge.net
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Check your CVS command string. SF updated to a newer release of BIND,
and it has a problem with the way the domains were arranged from the
earlier versions. So it becomes like this:
"#cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/freebios
login" and then:
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An article in last months issue of ECN discusses the problems and
circumstances regarding the USB port. Specifically the use of the port
in embedded systems. At the end the editor of the magazine, who also
happened to be the article's author, asked for any messages
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Well Steven, that worked. Both Baremetal, and USB compiled with out
any complaints, the library contents also built correctly. Now the
obvious question. I selected a ROM image sent to me, by an earlier
correspondent, and then got it to work inside Bochs. The original
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Now something else has happened. I've managed to build a copy of GCC
version 2.9.5.3 and have it installed in the /opt directory. But
there are unusual problems in the building of the bare metal library,
here's a script output regarding the errors:
Script star
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It should work indeed. However, I've got a strange series of problems that might be
related to my distribution's choice of versions, and I'll post the script output here
in this message. However, it will be a long one. I think some of these problems mi
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It happens I just finished examining the code for the contents of that
directory. But I've got just one question pending at the moment, how
do you mean, "It will actually load an ELF image written to the raw
device.". Explain that line of reasoning. Do yo
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Apologies in advance for the wordiness of the message, but I wanted to
present everything that led up to the title of the mail message.
Everyone, who in this group manages the website's pages on the subject
of CVS? The Source Forge pages will need to be reset, as wi
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Ah, but the picture wasn't done in Chinese. The rest of the website
was done that way.
I agree, Bari, I wonder how much work it would take to do that.
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It happens that I can use the frame buffer functions on my ATI Rage
128 without much of a hassle. In fact that's the native mode of the
video card. (And this is on a native BIOS, not the subject of the
group.)
Without breaking your NDA, could you enlighten the
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Is anyone using this one, from the KDE environment, CERVISIA?
Supposedly it will allow the user to do everything he normally does
with CVS, by hand. I discovered, that the Source Forge CVS does not
really appreciate the tool, despite the fact that the commands used,
are
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Richard, I've got a Mach64 chip here, or at least one part of the set,
here. Do you know where I can track down the literature for it? I've
been resisting designing it into a design because of that problem. And
yes, I've got a number of ATI based v
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Great news!
Now the next great question. For which mother boards have you tested
this? Or one anyway. And of course which USB drives have you tested?
I remember this issue first coming up, when our friends at M-SYS,
launched their Disk-On-Key project. One of us
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Your quite welcome. Although I am curious as to how that problem
materialized, with what Richard is doing, within the scope of his NDA.
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Richard, according to a guide book for programming for the Evil
Empire, that BIOS call, INT 15H AH=88H, which does mean AX=88H, since
your using the high order byte for that call, does this, Get Extended
Block Size. Upon return from the interrupt the AX register
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Funny you should mention that Linux Journal article, Richard. So have
I. Nice article Ron. It is indeed a Good Job.
Now as to the subject, is this in reference to the VGA BIOS item
that's tucked into the regular Free BIOS tree? Or is it in version 2
of same?
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Folks, take a look at the forwarded message below my signature. It
seems to me, that it was spawned from my messages discussing the
OpenBIOS kernel. I am inviting advice, and comment. I have responded
twice to the person, but so far no replies
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Yep. It seems I've seen that individual's handle, that started the
stream of comments. But I can't remember where.
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Well, according to the joker in charge of Source Forge, as a whole,
CVS was supposed to be moved to a larger, and bigger box, starting
sometime this week. Ron, here's a suggestion, keep collecting these
complaints, make a note as to the date, and time of each comp
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Thomas, where'd you find these things? You've got my curiosity piqued.
And can you post a digital photo of the actual unit some place?
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Your welcome Peter! I know the feeling. I've had days like that.
Besides. Ron feels I'm making a difference to our group, so I feel I
should contribute stuff like that.
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Perhaps. But NSC's webpage insists that they have indeed sold the
entire line to AMD, and that presumably included software tools, and
even development support. Meaning anyone who had bought a board the
week before the event took place, would find thems
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Stefan, it looks as if I was right. The version that's on your site,
does cause an oops, here it is:
invalid operand:
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[]Not tainted
EFLAGS: 00010246
eax: c2861e4a ebx: c286 ecx: c286 edx: c2861e40
esi:
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Okay, by adding that flag to the flags region of the make file, made
it work, sort of. Now the explosion happens when the process reaches
the steps for creating an image for working with our project here,
Linux BIOS, that's where it happens, something to do
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Okay, I knew you'd ask that question, when I sent that bug report off.
But forgot to include this in the first message. Version of
GCC=2.9.5.3, short version of binary utilities 2.10, and they were
built for I386, for Slackware Linux. I'll try adding t
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Nice! And I am reporting an error of sorts. Here's a paste of the log
from a script for the build process. For some reason its breaking
towards the end, with regards to the dictionary that was created for
booting from GRUB. Here, I'll post it:
Script
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Actually gentlemen, and ladies, no it is not. I have available for
this system a USB Key Drive, from Memorex, and a CF reader, also from
them. To use them under Linux, I need to turn on SCSI, and USB-Mass
drive support. Also, the mass drive functions look more
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I might. The ZIF socket is for easy insertions of the part in
question, which you have correctly decided. As for the Atmel part.
Good question. I suspect that's the part number the boards are
wearing. Not having seen one of them physically, I can only take a
gue
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Mike, can you provide some information on this beast? What's its
chosen processor? Also you'll need to run a "#lspci -v" for us (# mark
for shell prompt). Oh, and as a side note, nice to see you here.
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I tried the original program that Eric had written, it gave me the
classic Linux error message, "Segmentation fault". Version 1.0 of the
newer version gave me that same message, even though that is captured
from version 1.8. Also it was repeated all dow
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Are we discussing the strangeness behind the Geode here? If I remember
correctly, everything about that device is documented. Even the boards
that NSC developed for us to try out, before committing to a bigger
board were documented. About the only thing that wasn't,
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To be honest Adam, the thought that I brought up earlier today, wasn't
well presented, but you did answer it accurately. My big problem as
near as I can tell, is that the currently available versions of their
floppy based RTL are older kernels, and they ha
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Originally when I saw the first message, I wasn't going to say
anything. I figured that all of you would have the right things to
say. However, one of the things I have seen in the past five years, is
that when it comes to Linux, and the magazine isn't one that
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Here's a question that's definitely going to keep me up nights. Can a
properly configured and working Linux BIOS image, boot something else
via the floppy drive, in this case a normal 3.5 drive setup as the A
drive?
Well at least from the point of v
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Sorry! Predictable typo in subject name, content same.
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I don't know why, Andrew, but the patch your company supplied via the
FTP site, for the 2.4.19 kernel, applied correctly, and I was able to
build the kernel. But the expected event didn't work. When I issued a
"kexec kernel.elf", which was built usin
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Okay. It works for me.
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(This company dedi
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Now you've got my curiosity on active. Whose motherboard, is this? Is
it a Tyan job? Where can I get one?
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Greg, I am almost always up late.
I looked over Ron's dissertation, and it looks to be a doozy. I'm not
being crude, or insulting, just that it looks to be the one method for
implementing Linux BIOS that should work, with almost any board we
choose. Reg
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I dislike sending these. Along with the problems associated with this
cloddish mailer. Sorry guys for sending that blasted thing out, twice.
Ron, when you get the four of them, just discard one pair, or the
other.
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Here's a suggestion. When people post questions like that, just ask
them, to restate the questions, in a different format. It always
works. Especially when I talk like that.
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Here's a suggestion. When people post questions like that, just ask
them, to restate the questions, in a different format. It always
works. Especially when I talk like that.
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When did this happen, guys? When I used the steps on the site to
download the stuff in CVS, both, it worked for me. In fact, I was
surprised as to how quickly this happened. This was done, about a week
ago. Granted, Source Forge is having kittens over its current load
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Good question. However, I haven't had any problems visiting the
project pages for the project. I agree, that the CVS stores indicate
that there's an unnecessary delay of about a day, but that's only on
the view function for CVS. They say that the pro
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I agree in principle Ron, but I am curious as to why they thought
that. After all, Linux BIOS does more for a system then U-Boot. It's
my guess that after seeing the appropriate demonstrations that group
will change their minds, collectively or otherwise. For
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Then he, and Eric, (Who I've met.), have my blessings. And yes,
Welcome Stefan.
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Oh yes. A very good idea. But we need to select a time.
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Well, I saw the photos, on the web site. I'm impressed. I do wish I
could attend this years, conference. However, will this cluster, be
visiting next year's LWE here, in Manhattan?
Oh and Adam, I already know that the both of you, are real people. And
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Sorry forgot the subject line! Now resending it, with one. And I also
pasting the text file contents below the original message. Everything
in the original message applies.
However one I forgot is: Where do I put the created programs? The
/usr/bin for one, and the
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Eric, when you get a chance, can you examine the attached text file?
It contains the activities from building the kernel exec tools for
2.5.12 of the kernel sources.
This was built using the current tool chain for Slackware-8.0 for
Intel. I am using the Linux
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Thought you should know, that I've built my copy of the Bare Metal
bootloader. According to your notes below, it gets used with an Ether
boot, and the memory tester. And that I'd need to build my Linux BIOS
builds with that serial setting turned on.
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Okay, here is what I mean.
I have successfully built the Bare Metal boot loader. Now the question
is, or should be:
How do I use it?
Steven this is an interesting project. Now I'm just fishing for
advice.
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One of the files isn't available from the download page for the Linux
BIOS website. Which is
http://www.linuxbios.org/developer/download/index.html The file name,
is tboot.c. It's my guess, is that particular file wasn't brought
over, when the new site
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Here's a question that I think someone can answer.
I've recently obtained a PCD-897-Bare from an individual that I know
on the Linux-MTD list. The Disk On Chip was formatted as a 2MB device,
with the first 4K as the boot code, and at that I'm guessing.
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Yes, the project, is alive and kicking. Currently all of the code, is
indeed sitting on the CVS servers, at the project address given on the
project pages a Source Forge. The ones you were looking at, and indeed
the ones that I first grabbed, were the snapshots that were
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Sorry I'm late commenting. Been busy with other work.
Sorry! It happens that the entry on the sourceforge web page, is indeed
correct. Quite correct, as my e-mail address would say. I've been
downloading stuff from CVS on sourceforge, for roughly two and
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Eric a number of questions have arisen. First of all, in the readme
files for the kernel exec source code, you recommend that I obtain the
elfboot toolkit. The suggested reason, is that its because there is a
client for the kexec function inside it. Obviously the make
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Now the question becomes, "How can I obtain one, as an engineering
sample?". If I can obtain them at small quantity prices, then I will.
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Well most of them are. I just tried to access a part of the FAQ, on the
subject of code, and the page in question was indeed brought up, but not
the highlighted word code. That page wasn't found. I'll keep trying.
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Just for the sake of argument, and any other supporting reasons, does
anyone have a preference, regarding the distributions that they use?
I, myself, prefer Slackware for most things, and indeed I've been
using it since starting my interests in Linux. Bu
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My sources tell me, that something has gone wrong, within the
Sourceforge set ups for regular CVS, and for the HTTP based viewers.
So they've disabled them. It came up, on the Bochs mailing list,
earlier today. Hopefully it should be working by the weekend. If not,
I
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And what does this have to do with the whole purpose behind this list,
and Linux BIOS? I believe everyone will agree with me, when I state
this point, "I believe it does not.". On behalf of the rest of the
community, please cease, and desist.
Ron, everybo
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Pardon me Andrew? It happens that I got the thing to work. This was in
1.4.1 and under Linux, Slackware Linux 8.0 if you're curious. I simply
plugged the file that you made into the space provided, and adjusted the
rest of the settings to match. If you mean that th
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Good idea. But under which version of Bochs? The group over there, is
having excessive problems in making 2.0 reachable by the end of the
year. And how do you do that?
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A PLCC device in simple terms is a square device, which contains pretty
much the same thing, as the DIP packaged variant, sometimes there are a
few extra pins on it. In that case, unless otherwise noted on that data
sheet, they'd be Not Connected and noted as
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You are thinking of that square gizmo, with the blurry label on it? And
above the Disk On Chip device? It might be, I've seen AWARD BIOS units
jammed into PLCC type flash devices before, but its rather rare. That
because EPROM, both flash, and the others exist in
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Just for the record, has anyone gotten the 1.4.1 version of Bochs to
boot the 2.5.48 version enabled of Linux, to boot inside it? And then to
launch a kexec function from it? My normal Linux box is on down time, as
I track down spare parts for it, so I am resorting to
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Well done, Andrew. Can you send me a copy of your kernel, or at least
make it available someplace, if it is too big to send via e-mail?
Complete with instructions on how to attach it to the bochs simulator,
please. And as usual, if you choose to send the things to me, off
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Ron, I've tried your suggestion for the 440gx, it, looked like it did
not work. I've attached a script file from that one. And for the 440bx,
I have also attached a script file, and for it, the config file. I'm
confused. Really confused. There are
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Well, I can confirm that it works here. Andrew, check to see if you
remembered to install the PCI utilities for your distribution. I
neglected to do so at first, that caused it to pull the same fault that
you reported, then after installing it, it ran to completion, it
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Now I am completely baffled. The make files seem to think this was
intended for an SMP motherboard. I'm. The motherboard I am thinking of,
is a single processor based design, not a dual job. And so does the
output files, yet the script output disagrees with the make
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Is there a reason for the site to be down this time? I just attempted to
visit the site for the project, the site was www.linuxbios.org it gave
my browser an error message.
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I am getting some darned strange error messages from the Python based
builder script. It seems to reject the way the config file is setup, in
favor of something totally different. Well I tried that. It did not work.
So, I setup a shell script file to automate some of the
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It will work. I don't think your kernel is flakey. If anything, I think
the problem is elsewhere. And I think the fault is in the simulator,
but I can't get the Bochs team to agree one way, or the other, with my
suggestions regarding this project. Yes,
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That problem with Bochs, happens to me, all the time, and I am trying my
best to get a 440FX image to work there. Can you send me a copy of the
src file that you chose to create, for the 440FX? Off line.
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Any that works will be good. I am rather board agnostic at this point, so
all is necessary, as that it works, with out a complaint from itself, rather
then the actual vendor.
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Well, ah, I can't think of any. For my part, you've put in everything it
needs, except the hardware itself. Right now that is. Later? I won't
know until I try out Linux BIOS on an appropriate platform, and I'm
still selecting one of those.
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Point taken. I did go over his website the first time I heard about his
product. And that point you found was found, but I completely forgot it,
until now. That sticky issue that Info-Zip is grouching about sounds
about right. However, the folks at WinZip Computing
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Sorry, Adam, small typo in that statement. It should be "non-sense",
not, "none-sense". Same for all of us. I just looked at his site, and it
still says that other assemblers are not supported. I wonder what he
means by that?
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Adam, please define that none-sense for me. I have most of the things
here, from that guy's site. My only objections are for the assembler he
chose. I felt he should have used the assembler that's at the core of
the binary utilities of the GNU set of tools, inst
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So, am I. I have enjoyed reading his messages, with enthusiasm, now with
more.
Welcome aboard!
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"Oh my!" The Second Doctor's nearly favorite phrase.
- Original Message -
From: "Ronal
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Here is something strange. I just saw here, on this list, multiple
posts, from two different subscribers, each contained the exact same
thing. These were sent in HTML format. Can the list processor be
configured to reject HTML mail period? And for that matter items of
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I confess I missed the original message as well. Drat! But I do agree
with the sentiments expressed in the last part of the message. I'll post
a copy of it here:
> Speaking of which we probably should put together
> some kind of conference/workshop for LinuxBI
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Um, Todd, way to go choosing Slackware, that's what I use. Now what's
this about the slowness of the bootup scripts? I use Slackware here,
and about all I can say, it's a bit strange about those scripts. Of
course, this is version, 8.0, I haven't o
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Steve? How so? How did you physically connect the CF card to your IDE bus? I
know a number of adapters exist to enable that feature, and I know that the
2.4 series contains the MTD (Memory Technology Drivers) functions directly,
but after that, I'm lost.
Gregg C L
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Would someone correct me, if I am wrong? These clusters, they are part
of the Beowulf project, that Donald Becker originally developed using
commodity PCs, complete with their original headaches? I went over the
front page at www.beowulf.org and it clarified the
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Ron, about the v9fs project. I am impressed. It looks like a good
project. I might even try the code in any of my projects. So? What did
kill NFS for clusters? Just for fun, try the v9fs in the first cluster
that starts life at your shop.
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More importantly this fact. Eric's company is building the hardware. It
is exactly what Ron, and gang have been working towards. And some how,
the fact remains, CNet managed to accurately report this. Ziff-Davis
their parent company has been systematically
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Folks, it seems my mail program glitched, and inadvertently sent out the
previous message twice. The one where Ron was talking about the P3
problems. I'm working with the program to prevent it repeating the
action. I don't expect it to reoccur. My apologies
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Okay. That I will agree on. Indeed there are some bugs inside that
thing. However I was referring to the term you used, "northbridge
manual". Is there actually a manual for the particular chipsets you were
discussing or insulting in this thread? If its a 440 f
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Okay. That I will agree on. Indeed there are some bugs inside that
thing. However I was referring to the term you used, "northbridge
manual". Is there actually a manual for the particular chipsets you were
discussing or insulting in this thread? If its a 440 f
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"northbridge manual"? You've lost me there, Ron. Please explain. I know,
(I think), which part of the PCI layout, is which, but that reference
eludes me.
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Something strange poked me, while I was reading the exchange concerning
Steve's problems with his board, and the MAC address, and CMOS settings.
I can't speak to that problem, nor advise a possible solution for it,
but heres a general one. Can a list be draw
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