Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Stuge
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 07:55:56PM +0200, Evan Langlois wrote: > The smart-card suggestion someone posed might be an idea. I like the Schlumberger (now: Axalto) Cryptoflex[1] (NB not Cyberflex) cards a lot. I have a few e-gate 32K[2] cards that I'm playing with here, I'm using the USB token, but i

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-22 Thread Evan Langlois
> They don't have to disassemble the ROM, when GPLed code is used to > build it. > You can't keep it secret when you added your crypto code to GPLed > software (like LinuxBIOS or FILO). Oh yes! My bad. I agree 100%. I'm definately against illegal appropriation of GPL code. I'm usually the fi

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-22 Thread Evan Langlois
> They don't have to disassemble the ROM, when GPLed code is used to > build it. > You can't keep it secret when you added your crypto code to GPLed > software (like LinuxBIOS or FILO). > > You want obfuscation. IMHO it is a bad idea in general. Agreed - was just a thought -- Evan

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-22 Thread SONE Takeshi
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 08:25:28AM -0700, Alan Mimms wrote: > One thing that encryption in the bootstrap CAN do is prevent Trojan > attacks against the kernel image. If attackers can't find out what the > encryption key is they can't create a substitute Trojan kernel. It > plugs a hole. That is

RE: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-22 Thread Alan Mimms
ent Center Liberty Lake, Washington v: 509-343-3524 f: 509-343-3501 -Original Message- From: SONE Takeshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:18 AM To: Evan Langlois Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64: Something's missing? On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 1

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-22 Thread SONE Takeshi
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:27:35PM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 05:31:46AM -0500, Evan Langlois wrote: > > The boot image in this case would be a proprietary piece of software for > > real-time network filtering. The algorythm for which is patented > > technology. A user-in

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Stuge
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 05:31:46AM -0500, Evan Langlois wrote: > The boot image in this case would be a proprietary piece of software for > real-time network filtering. The algorythm for which is patented > technology. A user-input encryption key doesn't make sense as the box > is stand-alone and

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-22 Thread Evan Langlois
Encryption in boot process doesn't make sense to me. What you want to protect is the data in the storage, not the boot image (kernel). Encryption of the storage is OS's bussiness, and the OS will ask you the password before decrypting any data. Don't assume the boot image is a Linux kernel!

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-22 Thread SONE Takeshi
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:26:01PM +0200, Evan Langlois wrote: > > > EtherBoot can boot lots of things from the network or an IDE hard disk. > > FILO can boot from IDE hard disk, IDE CDROM, floppy, and maybe more? 9load > > I don't know much about except that it is used to load the plan9 kernel. >

Re: LinuxBIOS high level overview [was: AMD64: Something's missing?]

2003-10-21 Thread Peter Stuge
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:26:01PM +0200, Evan Langlois wrote: > > I don't know much about FILO. I should have included the URL where it lives: http://te.to/~ts1/filo/ Sorry about that. > Can anyone comment on its compatibility with the LILO graphical features > (displaying graphical menus/spla

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-21 Thread Evan Langlois
> EtherBoot can boot lots of things from the network or an IDE hard disk. > FILO can boot from IDE hard disk, IDE CDROM, floppy, and maybe more? 9load > I don't know much about except that it is used to load the plan9 kernel. I don't know much about FILO. Can anyone comment on its compatibility

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-21 Thread Peter Stuge
Hi everyone. This has a lot of basic stuff probably already well known on the list, but I figured it might help someone. Felt like documenting a little. :) On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:10:54PM +0100, Terry Blunt wrote: > I *very* much like the idea of having as much of my system as possible > open

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-20 Thread Terry Blunt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric W. Biederman) wrote: > Stefan Reinauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > * Eric W. Biederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031013 15:23]: > > > Sorry about that. > > > > I fixed it for Solo, others will follow once I have the Solo up again. > > > > > Before we declare this 2.0 i

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-13 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Stefan Reinauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Eric W. Biederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031013 15:23]: > > Sorry about that. > > I fixed it for Solo, others will follow once I have the Solo up again. > > > Before we declare this 2.0 instead of 1.1.xxx > > we should really have a target that will

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-13 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Eric W. Biederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031013 15:23]: > Sorry about that. I fixed it for Solo, others will follow once I have the Solo up again. > Before we declare this 2.0 instead of 1.1.xxx > we should really have a target that will build everything > in the tree that a person has the compi

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-13 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Stefan Reinauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Stefan Reinauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031013 10:42]: > > Building the Quartet target with latest CVS I get: > > raminit.c:2378.43: is_cpu_pre_c0 undeclared > > ah.. northbridge/amd/amdk8/cpu_rev.c is the secret. Sorry about that. Before we declare

Re: AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-13 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Stefan Reinauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031013 10:42]: > Building the Quartet target with latest CVS I get: > raminit.c:2378.43: is_cpu_pre_c0 undeclared ah.. northbridge/amd/amdk8/cpu_rev.c is the secret. Stefan -- Architecture Team SuSE Linux AG __

AMD64: Something's missing?

2003-10-13 Thread Stefan Reinauer
Building the Quartet target with latest CVS I get: raminit.c:2378.43: is_cpu_pre_c0 undeclared I'll look into it.. Stefan -- Architecture Team SuSE Linux AG ___ Linuxbios mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo