Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-10 Thread Richard Smith
Bari Ari wrote: You have to set up an NDA with ATI to get the info. I'm allowed to release my _code_ but the docs describing all the registers are protected by the NDA and are not publicly available. Are they allowing you to release source or just a binary? If it's source then it gets tricky

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-10 Thread Bari Ari
Richard Smith wrote: You have to set up an NDA with ATI to get the info. I'm allowed to release my _code_ but the docs describing all the registers are protected by the NDA and are not publicly available. Are they allowing you to release source or just a binary? If it's source then it gets tri

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-10 Thread Richard Smith
Gregg C Levine wrote: Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine Richard, I've got a Mach64 chip here, or at least one part of the set, here. Do you know where I can track down the literature for it? I've been resisting designing it into a design because of that problem. And yes, I've got a number of ATI

RE: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Gregg C Levine
y 09, 2004 6:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ATI gets a clue. > > Hendricks David W. wrote: > > > Woohoo! Does this also apply to their latest R3xx core Radeons such as the > > 8500 and up? Or only their old crummy ones? > >

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Li-Ta Lo
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 17:03, ron minnich wrote: > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Hendricks David W. wrote: > > > We don't need to with nVidia, we can run their VGA BIOS using testbios. > > > > Though in the perfect world, they'd be more forthcoming with specs so that > > someone can make an LB port for the

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Li-Ta Lo
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 16:18, Terry Blunt wrote: > "Hendricks David W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We don't need to with nVidia, we can run their VGA BIOS using testbios. > > > > Though in the perfect world, they'd be more forthcoming with specs so that > > someone can make an LB port for th

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Hendricks David W. wrote: > We don't need to with nVidia, we can run their VGA BIOS using testbios. > > Though in the perfect world, they'd be more forthcoming with specs so that > someone can make an LB port for their nForce boards. We'll have to see how big this all gets.

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Terry Blunt wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something, but I can never understand hardware > manufacturers being cagey about their specs. I would have thought it would > save them a lot of hassle if they *didn't* have to write drivers themselves. 2 reasons. First, somebody might st

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Hendricks David W.
>From what I gather, often times their specs have other companies' IP buried within them. For example, ATi and their OEMs release a series of cards called "All-In-Wonder" with each new chip. These AIW cards have a ton of extras on them like TV-tuners, hardware media decoders, the works. So for

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 04:42:37PM -0600, Richard Smith wrote: >Wonderfull news... I got this back today from ATI. Looks like someone >with some clout there finally gets it. This is great news :) I remain in awe at what has been achieved in the time I have been lurking on this list. congrats t

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Richard Smith
Hendricks David W. wrote: Woohoo! Does this also apply to their latest R3xx core Radeons such as the 8500 and up? Or only their old crummy ones? Bitworks's agreement only covers the Rage Mobility M1 which is several years old and Mach64 based. I don't know about the new cores. Probally not as

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Terry Blunt
"Hendricks David W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We don't need to with nVidia, we can run their VGA BIOS using testbios. > > Though in the perfect world, they'd be more forthcoming with specs so that > someone can make an LB port for their nForce boards. > > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Carlos Silva wro

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Carlos Silva
that was what am was talking about. i have a nForce2 and i would love to have LinuxBIOS on my PC but the only think i can do is w8 :( > We don't need to with nVidia, we can run their VGA BIOS using testbios. > > Though in the perfect world, they'd be more forthcoming with specs so that > some

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Hendricks David W.
We don't need to with nVidia, we can run their VGA BIOS using testbios. Though in the perfect world, they'd be more forthcoming with specs so that someone can make an LB port for their nForce boards. On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Carlos Silva wrote: > Really nice news... i'll keep dreaming that nvidia wi

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Carlos Silva
Really nice news... i'll keep dreaming that nvidia will do the same. > Wonderfull news... I got this back today from ATI. Looks like someone > with some clout there finally gets it. > > So I'm about to start porting some biosless init code I received over to > Linux. Then work it into linux bio

Re: ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Hendricks David W.
Woohoo! Does this also apply to their latest R3xx core Radeons such as the 8500 and up? Or only their old crummy ones? On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Richard Smith wrote: > Wonderfull news... I got this back today from ATI. Looks like someone > with some clout there finally gets it. > > So I'm about to

ATI gets a clue.

2004-02-09 Thread Richard Smith
Wonderfull news... I got this back today from ATI. Looks like someone with some clout there finally gets it. So I'm about to start porting some biosless init code I received over to Linux. Then work it into linux bios. I take back everything I said bad about ATI. *grin* Tell all your OEM bu