Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-08 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* ron minnich [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070508 01:42]: Not really, but the early A-Test revisions of OLPC had an Insyde PC BIOS. which was time-bombed. So, this process, if it uses a proprietary bios, has cost someone money. So their 3$ offer probably won't make it below 6$? 100% overdraw for not

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-07 Thread yhlu
OLPC will boot Windows? because the customer want it as a backup. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070504/hundred_dollar_laptop.html?.v=2 they will use old legacy BIOS like AMD using in 5x15? YH -- linuxbios mailing list linuxbios@linuxbios.org http://www.linuxbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-07 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* yhlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070507 20:08]: OLPC will boot Windows? because the customer want it as a backup. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070504/hundred_dollar_laptop.html?.v=2 they will use old legacy BIOS like AMD using in 5x15? They could sure use LinuxBIOS after GSoC is done. Microsoft, are

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-07 Thread yhlu
or boot windows via OFW in OLPC? YH -- linuxbios mailing list linuxbios@linuxbios.org http://www.linuxbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-07 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* yhlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070507 21:10]: or boot windows via OFW in OLPC? Indeed. Microsoft has code to do this, they did it on PPC before. -- coresystems GmbH • Brahmsstr. 16 • D-79104 Freiburg i. Br. Tel.: +49 761 7668825 • Fax: +49 761 7664613 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] •

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-07 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 07.05.2007 21:22, Stefan Reinauer wrote: * yhlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070507 21:10]: or boot windows via OFW in OLPC? Indeed. Microsoft has code to do this, they did it on PPC before. No, they use a conventional PC BIOS on the OLPC to boot Windows. Regards, Carl-Daniel --

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-07 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070508 00:12]: Indeed. Microsoft has code to do this, they did it on PPC before. No, they use a conventional PC BIOS on the OLPC to boot Windows. Any idea which one? -- coresystems GmbH • Brahmsstr. 16 • D-79104 Freiburg i. Br. Tel.: +49

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-07 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 08.05.2007 01:24, Stefan Reinauer wrote: * Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070508 00:12]: Indeed. Microsoft has code to do this, they did it on PPC before. No, they use a conventional PC BIOS on the OLPC to boot Windows. Any idea which one? Not really, but the early A-Test

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-07 Thread ron minnich
On 5/7/07, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08.05.2007 01:24, Stefan Reinauer wrote: * Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070508 00:12]: Indeed. Microsoft has code to do this, they did it on PPC before. No, they use a conventional PC BIOS on the OLPC to boot

[LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-04 Thread MARTIN WOODHOUSE
Yestereday Jordan wrotee On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:55:39PM -0400, Jim Gettys wrote: Mitch wrote a fast path resume from RAM for the OLPC Geode hardware. The fastest path is obviously attractive also in LinuxBIOS. Once you've done that, you find that you've done just about

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-04 Thread ron minnich
On 5/4/07, MARTIN WOODHOUSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What should happen it seems to my ancient mind --- is that the programmer should merely write a series of in a form such as : processor=x primaryRAM= y videochip=z etc etc --- and so forth, for whatever

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-04 Thread yhlu
Very good explanation about LinuxBIOS and Linux Kernel. Some ideas about future FW: 1. LinuxBIOS only need to do basic things like mem and basic init like HT, and basic PCI resources allocation 2. leave other thing to tiny linux kernel. 3. Thanks to Eric for kexec. and it make linux boot linux

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-04 Thread Al Boldi
ron minnich wrote: As to this OFW and LinuxBIOS discussion: LinuxBIOS is designed to load an OS from FLASH, no more and no less. To the maximum extent possible, LinuxBIOS avoids drivers, file systems, network protocol stacks, web servers, icons, GUIs, video displays, and so on. There is a

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-04 Thread ron minnich
On 5/4/07, Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, if I read you correctly, you are implying that OFW has overhead that isn't needed to just boot another OS. You did not read me correctly at all. Sorry, I guess I was not clear. OFW has overhead that it MUST HAVE to boot another OS. That's its

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-04 Thread Peter Stuge
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 11:29:04AM -0700, yhlu wrote: Very good explanation about LinuxBIOS and Linux Kernel. I agree. Thanks Ron! Some ideas about future FW: 1. LinuxBIOS only need to do basic things like mem and basic init like HT, and basic PCI resources allocation 2. leave other thing

Re: [LinuxBIOS] A very good idea

2007-05-04 Thread yhlu
On 5/4/07, Peter Stuge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I expect a $4000 laptop to resume as fast as, if not faster than, the OLPC $100 machine. Seems that will be impossible with ACPI. What do the power management people think about this? You could check linux supend to mem or disk feature. but for