Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-27 Thread ron minnich
On 11/27/06, Lionel Elie Mamane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also http://linuxbios.org/Products#Tyan_Computer says: Tyan (http://www.tyan.com/) offers LinuxBIOS on all their Opteron based products. Have bought (myself or made people that asked for advice buy) three Tyan motherboards up to now

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-26 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 03:21:58PM +0100, Stefan Reinauer wrote: * Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [061109 12:14]: I'm in the UK and would like to buy a workstation that can be 100% Free Software, using gNewSense and a Free Software BIOS - ie, LinuxBIOS - and am not sure where to turn.

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-10 Thread Al Boldi
Dave Crossland wrote: On 10/11/06, Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry bad choice of words on my part.. I meant not fully open source and not totally free of binary cruft. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=115536806403908w=2 Ouch. When he says, The driver remains

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-10 Thread Ward Vandewege
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 02:10:50PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote: Dave Crossland wrote: On 10/11/06, Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry bad choice of words on my part.. I meant not fully open source and not totally free of binary cruft.

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-10 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Ward Vandewege [EMAIL PROTECTED] [061110 14:05]: It means that you get basic access to the device w/o being able to take advantage of the more advanced features. Probably due to them subcontracting a third-party to do the advanced stuff. Anyone know what exactly the advanced stuff

[LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi, I'm in the UK and would like to buy a workstation that can be 100% Free Software, using gNewSense and a Free Software BIOS - ie, LinuxBIOS - and am not sure where to turn. Any idea? :-) -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09-Nov-2006 09:44

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread David H. Barr
On 11/9/06, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the UK and would like to buy a workstation that can be 100% Free Software, using gNewSense and a Free Software BIOS - ie, LinuxBIOS - and am not sure where to turn. Dave, This is, as LB topics go, a hot one right now. From the

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [061109 12:14]: Hi, I'm in the UK and would like to buy a workstation that can be 100% Free Software, using gNewSense and a Free Software BIOS - ie, LinuxBIOS - and am not sure where to turn. Yeah, there are plenty of good workstation boards supported by

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 09/11/06, David H. Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally think we will have this nailed in the MSI K9N Neo-F Real Soon Now; waiting for a certain package to arrive in the mail. What are the chances for Intel boards, since Intel are the only graphics card vendor with Free drivers at the

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 09/11/06, Stefan Reinauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, there are plenty of good workstation boards supported by LinuBIOS. The latest and greatest is definitely the MSI K9SD Master-S2R (MS-9185) Okay awesome - I'll make enquiries at my local custom built PC shop. Whats the recommend 3d

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread Richard Smith
Dave Crossland wrote: What are the chances for Intel boards, since Intel are the only Very low... graphics card vendor with Free drivers at the moment? Intel graphics drivers are not free. The are just more free than AIT and Nvidia. -- Richard A. Smith -- linuxbios mailing list

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Richard Smith wrote: Dave Crossland wrote: What are the chances for Intel boards, since Intel are the only Very low... graphics card vendor with Free drivers at the moment? Intel graphics drivers are not free. The are just more free than AIT and Nvidia. The open source ATI radeon

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10/11/06, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: graphics card vendor with Free drivers at the moment? The open source ATI radeon r200 and r300 drivers have remarkable quality, although r300 was the product of reverse engineering. The r300 series cards are fast enough for

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread Richard Smith
Dave Crossland wrote: Intel graphics drivers are not free. The are just more free than AIT and Nvidia. http://intellinuxgraphics.org/license.html says its all GPL and additional rights and X.org MIT license. Whats not free about this? Sorry bad choice of words on my part.. I meant not

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Advice for buying a new and not-obsolete workstation?

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10/11/06, Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry bad choice of words on my part.. I meant not fully open source and not totally free of binary cruft. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=115536806403908w=2 Ouch. When he says, The driver remains completely functional in the