[LinuxBIOS] Cache As RAM / Boot ROM alternative: PCI

2007-04-29 Thread Quux
not as I know of, but there is $150 Altera devKit PCI card, which clearly could do the trick, and some more ! http://www.altera.com/products/devkits/altera/kit-maxii-1270.html even a bare proto card can easily cost $40-60 these days. though DIY cost maybe $20 would one have to add little

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As RAM asf.

2007-04-29 Thread Darmawan Salihun
Hi Ron, I'm not sure about the existence of such a card. I used to hack an unused PCI Expansion Card (Adaptec SCSI Controller) to place my self-made code http://www.geocities.com/mamanzip/Articles/Low_Cost_Embedded_x86_Teaching_Tool.html. Maybe such approach can be used. Nonetheless, it means

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As RAM asf.

2007-04-29 Thread Darmawan Salihun
Maybe the following card is of some use: http://www.uxd.nl/en/pages/producten/hardware/phdpci2.html As for the cost, maybe it's better to use the Altera MAX II proposed by Quux On 4/29/07, Darmawan Salihun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ron, I'm not sure about the existence of such a card. I

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As RAM asf.

2007-04-29 Thread Bari Ari
ron minnich wrote: So, are there proto cards out there with nothing but a flash part on them? There are cheap ~$15 SCSI cards around and also PCI media card readers for ~$30. If the ROM's on NIC's show up during boot, then cards are available for under $5. But I don't recall any of them

[LinuxBIOS] Cache As RAM support routine for non-K8 CPUs

2007-04-28 Thread Darmawan Salihun
Hi guys, Is there any implementation of Cache as RAM in the current LinuxBIOS code (it's version 2 at the moment, right?) for processor other than K8 (Opteron/Athlon64 family)? I've just grepped through the code and can spot supports for K8 platforms. Anyway, I've got this conversation

[LinuxBIOS] Cache As RAM asf.

2007-04-28 Thread Quux
thank you for your posting, Darmawan. do you think that PCI expansion ROM may be useful during the developing phase in order to avoid soldering as on an GA M57sli mobo ? Eventually it does not make much sense anymore, when the LinuxBIOS code is verified to work. But before that it allows quick

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As RAM asf.

2007-04-28 Thread Peter Stuge
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 03:11:19PM +0200, Quux wrote: do you think that PCI expansion ROM may be useful during the developing phase in order to avoid soldering as on an GA M57sli mobo ? Not an expansion ROM, that suggests the ROM is part of a PCI expansion card (sound card, networking card,

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As RAM asf.

2007-04-28 Thread ron minnich
On 4/28/07, Peter Stuge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 03:11:19PM +0200, Quux wrote: do you think that PCI expansion ROM may be useful during the developing phase in order to avoid soldering as on an GA M57sli mobo ? Not an expansion ROM, that suggests the ROM is part of

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache as ram on VIA C3/C7 cpu

2006-10-29 Thread Stefan Reinauer
Hi, side note: could you try sending emails in ascii or utf8? It is hard for many on this list to read this mail otherwise.. I am trying to implement CAR on VIA C3 / C7 cpu. good! After DRAM initialization, resetting the CACHE and switching the stack to DRAM, the system will hang. How can

[LinuxBIOS] Cache as ram on VIA C3/C7 cpu

2006-10-28 Thread vc_6
I am trying to implement CAR on VIA C3 / C7 cpu. AfterDRAM initialization,resetting the CACHEand switching the stack to DRAM, the system will hang. How can i do? Any suggestions? VIA C3/C7 cpu 64k L1 Data Cache, 64K L1 Instruction Cache 128K L2 Cache with 32-way set associativity

[LinuxBIOS] Cache As Ram

2006-10-26 Thread Jiangbo W
Hi, When using cache as ram how can i ensure that the data in cache can not be swapped out? Regards Jiangbo.W -- linuxbios mailing list linuxbios@linuxbios.org http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As Ram

2006-10-26 Thread yhlu
what is your CPU? YH On 10/26/06, Jiangbo W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When using cache as ram how can i ensure that the data in cache can not be swapped out? Regards Jiangbo.W -- linuxbios mailing list linuxbios@linuxbios.org http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As Ram

2006-10-26 Thread Juergen Beisert
Hi Jiangbo, On Thursday 26 October 2006 10:19, Jiangbo W wrote: When using cache as ram how can i ensure that the data in cache can not be swapped out? From an old i486 datasheet I got this. And it works on my i486. Maybe it also works on other x86 CPUs. [...] ; Trash all the cache entries,

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As Ram

2006-10-26 Thread Segher Boessenkool
When using cache as ram how can i ensure that the data in cache can not be swapped out? The most generic way is to just not access any cacheable space that isn't in the cache yet. Segher -- linuxbios mailing list linuxbios@linuxbios.org http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As Ram

2006-10-26 Thread ollie
On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 16:19 +0800, Jiangbo W wrote: Hi, When using cache as ram how can i ensure that the data in cache can not be swapped out? The key (very confusing though) is the cache is actually disabled when CAR is working. This prevents the data been flushed back to the main

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As Ram

2006-10-26 Thread ron minnich
I have sent Eswar's slides from last year's summit to stefan for posting on the web page. it turns out cache disable doesn't really mean cache disable -- that's the confusing part. thanks ron -- linuxbios mailing list linuxbios@linuxbios.org http://www.openbios.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Cache As Ram

2006-10-26 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* ron minnich [EMAIL PROTECTED] [061026 21:20]: I have sent Eswar's slides from last year's summit to stefan for posting on the web page. They're on the documentation page in the papers section. Stefan -- coresystems GmbH • Brahmsstr. 16 • D-79104 Freiburg i. Br. Tel.: +49 761