--- Ed Swierk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hate to behave like a marketing droid, but sometimes this is the
only way to get attention:
Could anyone who is interested in running LinuxBIOS on an nVidia
MCP55
(nForce 570/590) or other recent nVidia chipset please contact me
with
the name of
On 12/18/06, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great! When will the code be released?
Well, we're now up to 2 different implementations of support for
nVidia MCP55 chipsets (Yinghai's and mine), both of which await the
blessing of nVidia's legal department, because they were
Lu, Yinghai wrote:
Please check it you are happy with
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?P
roductID=2287ModelName=GA-M57SLI-S4
This is a bit difficult to get here in Germany.
I got one, and work well with LinuxBIOS.
Great! When will the code be
--- Lu, Yinghai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please check it you are happy with
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?P
roductID=2287ModelName=GA-M57SLI-S4
I got one, and work well with LinuxBIOS.
YH
This is really great, thank you very much! The only
-Original Message-
From: Vlad C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:27 AM
Any chance you could port LinuxBIOS to a motherboard based on plain
nForce 570 or nForce 590 without SLI?
570 == mcp55
590 == mcp55 + c51
So 590 would be more expensive than 570 SLI.
YH
--- Lu, Yinghai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Vlad C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:27 AM
Any chance you could port LinuxBIOS to a motherboard based on plain
nForce 570 or nForce 590 without SLI?
570 == mcp55
590 == mcp55 + c51
Please check it you are happy with
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?P
roductID=2287ModelName=GA-M57SLI-S4
I got one, and work well with LinuxBIOS.
YH
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From: Lu, Yinghai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:45 PM
To: Simon Labrecque; ron minnich; Vlad C.; yhlu
Cc: linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: RE: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop CPU
I'm trying to get one.
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CPU
Any news regarding support for LinuxBIOS on one of the motherboard I
listed?
If someone needs me to buy the motherboard and ship it to him in order
to
work on it, I'm willing to do that.
Just let me know; we'd like to get this working
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 02:44:59PM -0800, Lu, Yinghai wrote:
I'm trying to get one.
This is the one Stefan has, that I took apart in Hamburg:
http://www.plxtech.com/products/NET2000/NET20DC/default.asp
They call it a cable, which is silly, but it does the right thing.
//Peter
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On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:53:39PM -0800, Lu, Yinghai wrote:
With USB serial console enabled in kernel and console=ttyUSB0, only
can get boot message very late.
From usbcore: registered new interface driver ftdi_sio. Before that
only some lines in buffer.
Yeah. The debug device is only useful
On 11/30/06, Simon Labrecque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with the MSI K9N is that the Northbridge's passive cooler is
said to get very, VERY hot, which might be problematic in our application as
noise (and therefore airflow) needs to be minimized.
I haven't tested it personally
I'm asking because obviously I don't know the answer, but can't a
serial
port on a PCI card be used? Wouldn't that be simpler than through-USB
debugging?
yeah, but how do you debug the PCI bringup code if PCI is not up to
drive the card in the PCI slot ... assuming there *is* a PCI slot.
find one MB, even only have pin connecter in MB is good.
for USB, some chipset, you need to
1. init ht chain
2. find SB
3. patch SB, to make USB working...
otherwise USB will not work.
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What he is trying to describe is that to use a PCI serial port card
you
fist have to enumerate the PCI bus and assign resources. Thats done
after RAM + a bunch more is functional.
That's not true on all systems and all firmwares, FWIW;
on your average x86 box though, it would be quite
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 05:17:01PM -0700, ron minnich wrote:
we are going to have to learn USB debug port. This problem is not
going away.
Maybe we can find some other solution that is even easier to use.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:19:26AM +0100, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
But yes, it's very
Segher Boessenkool [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
we are going to have to learn USB debug port. This problem is not
going away.
The EHCI debug port requires slightly _more_ setup than
plugin PCI 16550 cards do...
True. But it is generally available and you don't need DMA to use it.
It would
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 05:16:52AM +0100, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
The USB debug capability is supposed to work even when almost
nothing is work.
EHCI debug port requires PCI to be set up (at least
partially) -- it requires a BAR.
Am I correct in understanding that this is about the same
for recent chipset and powerful desktop CPU
On 11/29/06, Simon Labrecque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If someone has a board to suggest, please jump in.
1. one from supermicro
2. one from MSI
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Suggestions:
- Asus M2N-E
(http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3l2=101l3=308model=1181modelmenu=2)
- MSI K9N Platinum
(http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=730)
Simon,
The MSI K9N Platinum motherboard has an IEEE1394 (FireWire) chipset,
while the Asus
Good point. While it would be quite easy to add FireWire support through a
PCI card, it sure would be nice to have support for it native to the
motherboard.
The problem with the MSI K9N is that the Northbridge's passive cooler is
said to get very, VERY hot, which might be problematic in our
Simon Labrecque wrote:
Suggestions:
- MSI K9N Platinum
(http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID
=730)
- MSI K9N Neo-F
(http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID
=733)
Both of them would be good targets. Both have onboard
Peter Stuge wrote:
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 05:17:01PM -0700, ron minnich wrote:
we are going to have to learn USB debug port. This problem is not
going away.
Maybe we can find some other solution that is even easier to use.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:19:26AM +0100, Segher Boessenkool
What signals can be twiddled at, or soon after, power on?
Stuff attached directly to the CPU; stuff attached directly
to the north bridge; stuff on a subtractive decode path
anywhere further on the I/O fan-out.
DRAM
Pro: Easy to make/get/order PCBs that fit
Con: Not easily accessible without
The USB debug capability is supposed to work even when almost
nothing is work.
EHCI debug port requires PCI to be set up (at least
partially) -- it requires a BAR.
Am I correct in understanding that this is about the same amount
of work as is needed to reach the serial port super IO chips?
On 11/30/06, Vlad C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the MSI K9N Platinum motherboard would therefore be better
suited for a Multimedia PC.
also, MSI is proving to be very supportive of linuxbios
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On 11/30/06, Vlad C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the MSI K9N Platinum motherboard would therefore be better
suited for a Multimedia PC.
also, MSI is proving to be very supportive of linuxbios
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-Original Message-
From: ebiederman@lnxi.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:00 AM
Has anyone made in progress sorting out the EHCI USB debug port yet.
I'm about
1/4 of the way from implementing kernel support. Currently I have just
gotten
as far as a
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:linuxbios-
Both of them would be good targets. Both have onboard serial ports and
both
are passively cooled.
Differences between the two boards:
K9N Platinum
* nForce 570
* 6 internal USB ports
* 6 SATA ports
* 2x Gbit LAN
* Firewire
minnich; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: RE: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop CPU
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:linuxbios-
Both of them would be good targets. Both have onboard serial ports and
both
are passively cooled.
Differences between
and optimized application delivery for global
enterprises
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:07 AM
To: linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: Re: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset
SPI
When all vendors move to SPI,
If, not when. And it's never going to happen, SPI is
just too slow for many applications.
hopefully most boards will have a
debugging header or another method to hook into SPI.
Pro: Fast, soon to be the standard
Con: No idea what support we need for
DRAM
Pro: Easy to make/get/order PCBs that fit
Con: Not easily accessible without setting up DRAM controller
(Is this the case?)
Nope; I suggested using the I2C bus only! Only issue is
getting the correct voltages onto the board.
Great idea - just clip it onto the SPD EEPROM. A PIC and
Nope; I suggested using the I2C bus only! Only issue is
getting the correct voltages onto the board.
Great idea - just clip it onto the SPD EEPROM. A PIC and RS232
transceiver are all you need.
I'd use an MSP430, not a PIC, but same idea yes. And making
your own DIMM is easier than
Lu, Yinghai wrote:
Both of them would be good targets. Both have onboard serial ports and
both are passively cooled.
Differences between the two boards:
K9N Platinum
* nForce 570
* 6 internal USB ports
* 6 SATA ports
* 2x Gbit LAN
* Firewire -- good for Media Center
What is
Main problem stays: does a DIMM socket carry the right voltages?
Yes, Vdd-spd should be in the range of 3.3V standard. Even if you need
to take from 1.8V there are plenty of options.
Drew
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Simon Labrecque wrote:
Good point. While it would be quite easy to add FireWire support through a
PCI card, it sure would be nice to have support for it native to the
motherboard.
The problem with the MSI K9N is that the Northbridge's passive cooler is
said to get very, VERY hot, which might
Main problem stays: does a DIMM socket carry the right voltages?
Yes, Vdd-spd should be in the range of 3.3V standard. Even if you need
to take from 1.8V there are plenty of options.
Ah, a separate SPD Vdd. Great, this should work fine :-)
Segher
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From: Bari Ari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:10 PM
To: Simon Labrecque
Cc: 'Vlad C.'; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: Re: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop CPU
Simon Labrecque wrote:
Good point. While it would be quite easy to add
Is anyone building USB to USB converter with EHCI debug port?
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* Segher Boessenkool [EMAIL PROTECTED] [061130 18:22]:
You typically need to set up quite a bit of the PCI subsystem
for it to work -- including not only bridges and devices on
the path to the PCI function you're interested in, but also
any siblings of any such.
Why would that be?
And you
You typically need to set up quite a bit of the PCI subsystem
for it to work -- including not only bridges and devices on
the path to the PCI function you're interested in, but also
any siblings of any such.
Why would that be?
Because you don't want two devices claiming the same
I'm trying to get one.
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Lu, Yinghai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-Original Message-
From: ebiederman@lnxi.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:00 AM
Has anyone made in progress sorting out the EHCI USB debug port yet.
I'm about
1/4 of the way from implementing kernel support.
-Original Message-
From: ebiederman@lnxi.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm looking at earlyprintk. That looks like the most interesting case.
But
once something is bootstrapped it should be relatively straight forward
to make the other cases work.
Me too. Simnow console is there!
With
Hi,
We're starting development of a (pretty much high-end) PVR/MediaCenter
which will of course run linux. Now, one of the avenue we're looking at is
using standard x86 hardware (as opposed to custom built embedded hardware).
Since the product will need a lot of processing power (since if
To: linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop CPU
Hi,
We're starting development of a (pretty much high-end)
PVR/MediaCenter which will of course run linux. Now, one of the avenue
we're looking at is using standard x86 hardware (as opposed
think.
Simon Labrecque
From: Lu, Yinghai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:05 PM
To: Simon Labrecque; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: RE: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop CPU
If you select one AM2 + MCP55 MB, It would only take me
The MB doesn't have serial port.
YH
From: Simon Labrecque [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:51 AM
To: Lu, Yinghai; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: RE: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop
CPU
Would
and powerful desktop CPU
The MB doesn't have serial port.
YH
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From: Simon Labrecque [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:51 AM
To: Lu, Yinghai; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: RE: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop CPU
Would
Too late.
YH
From: Simon Labrecque [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:49 PM
To: Lu, Yinghai; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: RE: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop
CPU
Does it *need* a serial port
desktop CPU
Too late.
YH
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From: Simon Labrecque [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:49 PM
To: Lu, Yinghai; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: RE: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop CPU
Does it *need* a serial port? Can't one
: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop
CPU
Too late.
YH
From: Simon Labrecque [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:49 PM
To: Lu, Yinghai; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: RE: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent
On 11/29/06, Lu, Yinghai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Too late.
Translation: LinuxBIOS cannot access the serial port on a PCI card
until late in the boot process, after initializing and scanning the
PCI bus. Only a serial port integrated into the mainboard chipset can
be initialized early enough to
we are going to have to learn USB debug port. This problem is not going away.
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we are going to have to learn USB debug port. This problem is not going
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On 11/29/06, Simon Labrecque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm asking because obviously I don't know the answer, but can't a serial
port on a PCI card be used? Wouldn't that be simpler than through-USB
debugging?
yeah, but how do you debug the PCI bringup code if PCI is not up to
drive the card in
Simon Labrecque wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't understand your reply. Too late for what exactly?
Simon,
What he is trying to describe is that to use a PCI serial port card you
fist have to enumerate the PCI bus and assign resources. Thats done
after RAM + a bunch more is functional. So it
we are going to have to learn USB debug port. This problem is not
going away.
The EHCI debug port requires slightly _more_ setup than
plugin PCI 16550 cards do...
Segher
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Too late.
Translation: LinuxBIOS cannot access the serial port on a PCI card
until late in the boot process, after initializing and scanning the
PCI bus. Only a serial port integrated into the mainboard chipset can
be initialized early enough to be useful for debugging.
That's not exactly
PM
To: Lu, Yinghai
Cc: Simon Labrecque; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: Re: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop CPU
we are going to have to learn USB debug port. This problem is not going
away.
Does the board have a parallel (printer) port?
Just an idea
Russ
29, 2006 7:17 PM
To: Lu, Yinghai
Cc: Simon Labrecque; linuxbios@linuxbios.org
Subject: Re: [LinuxBIOS] Support for recent chipset and powerful desktop
CPU
we are going to have to learn USB debug port. This problem is not going
away.
Does the board have a parallel (printer) port?
Just an idea
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