Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-25 Thread Alan Mimms
Subject: Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload * Jamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060904 12:59]: > I have just started reading up on LinuxBIOS and am keen to use it on my > EPIA-M powered Linux server (for... speed! - ok, and coolness-factor)... > and wondered why GRUB isn't listed

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-25 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Jonathan McDowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060925 09:51]: > Doesn't APM require various entry points in the BIOS? Does LinuxBIOS > even have these at present? No. LinuxBIOS uses ACPI for power management -- coresystems GmbH • Brahmsstr. 16 • D-79104 Freiburg i. Br. Tel.: +49 761 7668825 • Fa

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-25 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:52:37AM +0300, Al Boldi wrote: > Stefan Reinauer wrote: > > * Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060924 21:14]: > > > Filo does the trick, but has its issues wrt APM and its inability > > > to remember boot commands like LiLo can. > > > > How does APM come into play here?!? >

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-24 Thread Al Boldi
Stefan Reinauer wrote: > * Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060924 21:14]: > > So maybe leave the bootloader chainloaded as a separate module from the > > block-driver. > > In theory possible but fragile. Of course you can load any number of > intermediary loaders from disk. > > > > No, "a simple MBR

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-24 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060924 21:14]: > > why would you want to "load an mbr" if you can easily read files from > > all kinds of existing filesystems as well? > > Modularization. With parsing filesystems you can load any modules directly from a partition. > So maybe leave the bootload

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-24 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Al Boldi wrote: > Stefan Reinauer wrote: >> What is your requirement? Loading Windows? > > Loading Linux, on an i440bx with a brain-dead AwardBIOS that can't boot USB, > nor can it boot disks >32GB. Ah, the factory BIOS versions back then. Usually applying the latest upgrade helped a bit. But ev

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-24 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Al Boldi wrote: > Stefan Reinauer wrote: >>> Thanks for the pointer, but it looks like the sourceforge cvs is dead, >>> and ADLO seems to be some sort of a 16bit BIOS compatibility layer, when >>> all that is needed is a simple MBR chainloader. >> No, "a simple MBR chainloader" is not all that is n

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-24 Thread Al Boldi
Stefan Reinauer wrote: > * Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060924 06:46]: > > I was thinking more like loading another bootloader. This way, there is > > no need to fuss around with user-interface, image-type, or fs-level > > access, but instead just load a no-frills MBR. > > why would you want to "

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-24 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060924 06:46]: > I was thinking more like loading another bootloader. This way, there is no > need to fuss around with user-interface, image-type, or fs-level access, but > instead just load a no-frills MBR. why would you want to "load an mbr" if you can easily

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-23 Thread Al Boldi
Stefan Reinauer wrote: > * Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060923 07:30]: > > Stefan Reinauer wrote: > > > * Jamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060904 12:59]: > > > > I have just started reading up on LinuxBIOS and am keen to use it on > > > > my EPIA-M powered Linux server (for... speed! - ok, and > > > > c

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-23 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060923 07:30]: > Stefan Reinauer wrote: > > * Jamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060904 12:59]: > > > I have just started reading up on LinuxBIOS and am keen to use it on my > > > EPIA-M powered Linux server (for... speed! - ok, and coolness-factor)... > > > and wondered why

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-22 Thread Al Boldi
Stefan Reinauer wrote: > * Jamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060904 12:59]: > > I have just started reading up on LinuxBIOS and am keen to use it on my > > EPIA-M powered Linux server (for... speed! - ok, and coolness-factor)... > > and wondered why GRUB isn't listed (or suggested) as a payload option...

Re: [LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-22 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Jamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060904 12:59]: > I have just started reading up on LinuxBIOS and am keen to use it on my > EPIA-M powered Linux server (for... speed! - ok, and coolness-factor)... > and wondered why GRUB isn't listed (or suggested) as a payload option... The problem with grub (v0.9x)

[LinuxBIOS] Using GRUB as a payload

2006-09-22 Thread Jamey
I have just started reading up on LinuxBIOS and am keen to use it on my EPIA-M powered Linux server (for... speed! - ok, and coolness-factor)... and wondered why GRUB isn't listed (or suggested) as a payload option... seems an obvious choice to me (not knowing the inner workings of LinuxBIOS), also