Re: [ILUG-BOM] QT Licensing - Was--> Re: The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Raj Mathur wrote: > > like Qt, which is supposed to do GUI work and would crawl to a halt and > die if you started making library calls through some IPC. You might > not even be able to do it hypothetically, depending on how closely Qt > is bound to the X server.

Re: [ILUG-BOM] QT Licensing - Was--> Re: The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Ravindra Jaju wrote: > Ok, ok, ok!! s/QT/Qt/g :) -- jaju -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] QT Licensing - Was--> Re: The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Faraz Shahbazker < faraz.shahbaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If it were so, this list would be history. BTW, you haven't actually > respond > to my point (yet). Do you still not see any contradiction in the above > mentioned statements?? No, I still do not see the c

[ILUG-BOM] QT license - Was --> Re: The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:02 PM, jtd wrote: > While your contention is correct (ref your second para), that is not > what i am getting at. What i am saying is that troltech's contention > that i cannot commercially distribute gpl software is rubbish. > Trolltech is implying that i cannot sell gpl

Re: [ILUG-BOM] QT Licensing - Was--> Re: The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Faraz Shahbazker < faraz.shahbaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > Compare 2nd line of the 2nd link with the 1st line of the 1st link: > > a) "it is actually available under the terms of the GNU GPL." >vs. > b) "If the Open Source Edition was licensed purely under the GNU

[ILUG-BOM] QT Licensing - Was--> Re: The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Faraz Shahbazker < faraz.shahbaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > And more .. clearly contradicting: > > > http://trolltech.com/developer/faqs/192?hotspoturl=http%3A//trolltech.com/developer/faqs/licensing > > http://trolltech.com/developer/faqs/191?hotspoturl=http%3A//trol

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > http://doc.trolltech.com/4.4/license-gpl-exceptions.html > > and now I see why nokia is being mentioned ;-) > > So, as JTD has said - the whole thing is rubbish meant to deceive a > gullible > public by misusing the term GPL. Sorry,

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > shall we avoid the personal comments? Anyway I may be a blind idiot - but I > cannot find any wording anywhere on the website which says that QT itself > is > released under the GPL. All I can find is that the open source edition is > r

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Praveen A wrote: > 2008/12/31 Ravindra Jaju : > > have had dtrace and ZFS for Linux long back! BSD and GPL don't mix. > > well, it is a one way path. you can add BSD code to GPLed code. ZFS > and dtrace are under CDDL, which is also a Fre

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Wednesday 31 Dec 2008 12:53:34 pm jtd wrote: > > And > > > http://trolltech.com/products/appdev/licensing/licensing#qt-open-source-lic > >ense > > this is a joke. If I modify or enhance QT - then they can compel me to > contribute such

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Praveen A wrote: > 2008/12/30 jtd : > > > And > > > http://trolltech.com/products/appdev/licensing/licensing#qt-open-source-license > > > > has more rubbish. > > Like? +1 interested in knowing. -- jaju -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:15 AM, jtd wrote: > There was specific piece of misinformation on their licence page, > which in effect stated that you cant use gpl software commercially. I > pointed out to them twice that this was plain wrong. It was not > corrected even a year later. > So the compan

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 11:39 AM, jtd wrote: > > You can use ANY GPL software commercially. I can buy or sell gpl > software or trade it for any gods or service, the buyer/seller and i > deem fit subject to the terms of the gpl. I DO NOT require any > additional licence from anyone for using a gp

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Can somebody tell me how to get 3 years compatibility on ALL packages of LINUX and Windows on ONE machine

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Erach wrote: > Hi, > What do I do ? > I have a machine with 786 MB of RAM. > If it was Windows, I could use ALL my purchased packages on it for 3 > years --- till the Windows was replaced - I assume. > Now, LINUX supporters say, over 3000 packages fre

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Kartik Mistry wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > >> Please don't spread FUD. > > > > proprietary == foss? in which language? > > Dual license is not problem at all. Thats why Virtualbox is available in > Debian. > > And for your

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux addiction !!!

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Dec 2008 7:02:02 pm Sachin Gopalakrishnan wrote: > > > where did you get the 90% figure from? > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows#cite_note-5 > > dear friend, I asked for source - not wikipedia. Wikipe

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Ravindra Jaju wrote: > > > What am I missing in your arguments? > Oh, and did I mention: VirtualBox is *awesome*! I run OpenSolaris and Windows XP on it - without leaving my GNU/Linux desktop. And not a single hair-pulling moment :) -- jaju -- ht

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > proprietary is proprietary and foss is foss - and never shall the twain > meet. > A product that claims to combine the two is the worst kind of hypocrisy and > does not deserve discussion on this list. The devil can quote scripture and

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:16 PM, jtd wrote: > The "other" licence (PUEL) is definetly not FOSS. It is a closed > personal, non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited license. Any use > beyond the provisions of personal use is prohibited and you may not > modify the product in any way. 1] The "oth

Re: [ILUG-BOM] The virtualbox license --- clarification from the FAQ --

2008-12-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > > Please don't spread FUD. > > proprietary == foss? in which language? > Who claimed that proprietary == foss? Virtualbox is available under *two* kinds of licenses - one of which is GPL. So, where's the problem? Thanks, jaju -- ht

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mylyn for bash

2008-07-24 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Puneet Lakhina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was wondering if something similar for the shell would be useful. It could > for example alter the history to only have the commands that you used in the > context of working on a paritcular task. It could maybe even

Re: [ILUG-BOM] [URL] IIT Bombay, Microsoft at loggerheads

2008-05-30 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Arun Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it is a case of incomplete proof reading. > > I have read the article and saw Dr. Phatak's name spelt correctly in 2 > places, only in the last instance did I notice the error. > > It happens. Have we not all, at one t

[ILUG-BOM] [URL] IIT Bombay, Microsoft at loggerheads

2008-05-27 Thread Ravindra Jaju
Good to know IITB taking forward the good thing they have been part of (along with our awesome FOSS leaders!) http://in.rediff.com/money/2008/may/28iit.htm But itÅ› rediff, and somethingÅ› gotta be broken! It is Dr. Phatak, and not Dr. Pathak. -- jaju -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/l

[ILUG-BOM] MS PR at work? --> Re: How the corrupt ones manipulate things

2008-04-03 Thread Ravindra Jaju
Rediff had a _very_ short-lived front-page news item on ISO approval of OOXML. It immediately started attracting anti-OOXML comments, and they promptly relegated it to their backside... (no pun intended) (Devil's advocate) - MS PR managers at work? http://in.rediff.com/money/2008/apr/03ms.htm Giv

Re: [ILUG-BOM] How the corrupt ones manipulate things

2008-03-31 Thread Ravindra Jaju
[Top-posting because not replying to any specific point] You have got to give it to these guys (MS). They know how to find their way out. If OOXML becomes a standard even after the surfacing of irregularities (http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/03/31/0039238.shtml), then it is the ISO which should b

Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml

2008-03-24 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Arun Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Nishit Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The editorial in Business Standard today again seems to speak from > > Microsoft's point of view, and calls OOXML an already existing > > standard!! As an interested group, we

Re: [ILUG-BOM] ps -ef | grep nobody ???

2008-03-24 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Nadeem M. Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It has an entry in the passwd file. That makes it a valid linux user. > 65535 or 65536 is its GID on RH based systems. Thats default. You can > ofcourse change the name, the GID, or whatever. Oh, interesting. Can yo

Re: [ILUG-BOM] ps -ef | grep nobody ???

2008-03-23 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 08:12 +0400, Nadeem M. Khan wrote: > nobody it the user NFS uses for its functioning. It is a valid Linux > user. Its GID is 65535 I think. > > grep nobody /etc/passwd It's a popularly used user-name, but it's not really correct to say that it's a "valid Linux user". Nor i

Re: [ILUG-BOM] is SEO unethical [Highly OT]

2008-03-09 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Ravindra Jaju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Both are related. Increase in business is an absolute goal for most. > > Being near the top in google resul

Re: [ILUG-BOM] is SEO unethical -- going much OT now :)

2008-03-09 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Both are related. Increase in business is an absolute goal for most. > > Being near the top in google results _gets_ you more business, > > anecdotally > > speaking. It's one of the aspects for most online bu

Re: [ILUG-BOM] is SEO unethical

2008-03-09 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > After reading the above, I would like to know what _your_ > > understanding of SEO is. The above is what SEO-ers do! > > what is the aim of a website - to increase your business or to be the > first hit on

Re: [ILUG-BOM] is SEO unethical

2008-03-09 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 13:09 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > 1. make sure that your web page is standards compliant - lot of > software for that > 2. make sure it is well designed - lot of examples for that > 3. make sure there are no broken links - lot of software for that > 4. make sure that