[PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-02-28 Thread Manish Ahuja
Basic documentation for hypervisor-assisted dump. Signed-off-by: Linas Vepstas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signed-off-by: Manish Ahuja [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation/powerpc/phyp-assisted-dump.txt | 127 +++ 1 file changed, 127 insertions(+) Index:

[PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-02-11 Thread Manish Ahuja
Basic documentation for hypervisor-assisted dump. Signed-off-by: Linas Vepstas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signed-off-by: Manish Ahuja [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation/powerpc/phyp-assisted-dump.txt | 127 +++ 1 file changed, 127 insertions(+) Index:

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-14 Thread Linas Vepstas
On 13/01/2008, Olof Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you expect to have it in full production if you don't have all resources available for it? It's not until the dump has finished that you can return all memory to the production environment and use it. With the PHYP dump, each chunk

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-13 Thread Olof Johansson
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:57:51AM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: On 10/01/2008, Nathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Strosaker wrote: At the risk of repeating what others have already said, the PHYP-assistance method provides some advantages that the kexec method cannot: -

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-11 Thread Linas Vepstas
On 10/01/2008, Nathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Strosaker wrote: At the risk of repeating what others have already said, the PHYP-assistance method provides some advantages that the kexec method cannot: - Availability of the system for production use before the dump data is

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-10 Thread Olof Johansson
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:12:13PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: On 09/01/2008, Olof Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 08:33:53PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: Heh. That's the elbow-grease of this thing. The easy part is to get the core function working. The hard

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-10 Thread Linas Vepstas
On 10/01/2008, Olof Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:12:13PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: On 09/01/2008, Olof Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 08:33:53PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: Heh. That's the elbow-grease of this thing. The

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-10 Thread Mike Strosaker
Linas Vepstas wrote: On 10/01/2008, Olof Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 10:12:13PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: On 09/01/2008, Olof Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 08:33:53PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: Heh. That's the elbow-grease of

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-10 Thread Nathan Lynch
Mike Strosaker wrote: At the risk of repeating what others have already said, the PHYP-assistance method provides some advantages that the kexec method cannot: - Availability of the system for production use before the dump data is collected. As was mentioned before, some production

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Nathan Lynch
Hi Linas, Linas Vepstas wrote: On 08/01/2008, Nathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manish Ahuja wrote: + +The goal of hypervisor-assisted dump is to enable the dump of +a crashed system, and to do so from a fully-reset system, and +to minimize the total elapsed time until the

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Manish Ahuja
I used the word actually. I already know that it is intended to be faster. :) it should blow it away, as, after all, it requires one less reboot! There's more than rebooting going on during system dump processing. Depending on the system type, booting may not be where most time is

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Manish Ahuja
It's in production with 256MB of RAM? Err. Sure as the dump progresses more RAM will be freed, but that's hardly production. I think Nathan's right, any sysadmin who wants predictability will probably double reboot anyway. Thats a changeable parameter. Its something we chose for now. It by no

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Michael Ellerman
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 12:44 -0600, Nathan Lynch wrote: Hi Linas, Linas Vepstas wrote: On 08/01/2008, Nathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manish Ahuja wrote: + +The goal of hypervisor-assisted dump is to enable the dump of +a crashed system, and to do so from a fully-reset

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Linas Vepstas
On 09/01/2008, Nathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Linas, Linas Vepstas wrote: As a side effect, the system is in production *while* the dump is being taken; A dubious feature IMO. Hmm. Take it up with Ken Rozendal, this is supposed to be one of the two main selling points of

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Linas Vepstas
On 09/01/2008, Michael Ellerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if you can get at rtas, but you can't get at rtas at that point. AFAICT you don't need to get at RTAS, you just need to look at the device tree to see if the property is present, and that is trivial. You probably just need to

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Olof Johansson
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 08:33:53PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: Heh. That's the elbow-grease of this thing. The easy part is to get the core function working. The hard part is to test these various configs, and when they don't work, figure out what went wrong. That will take perseverence and

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Michael Ellerman
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 20:47 -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: On 09/01/2008, Michael Ellerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if you can get at rtas, but you can't get at rtas at that point. AFAICT you don't need to get at RTAS, you just need to look at the device tree to see if the property

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Linas Vepstas
On 09/01/2008, Olof Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 08:33:53PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: Heh. That's the elbow-grease of this thing. The easy part is to get the core function working. The hard part is to test these various configs, and when they don't work,

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-09 Thread Michael Ellerman
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 22:12 -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: On 09/01/2008, Olof Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 08:33:53PM -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: Heh. That's the elbow-grease of this thing. The easy part is to get the core function working. The hard part is

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-08 Thread Nathan Lynch
Manish Ahuja wrote: + + Hypervisor-Assisted Dump + + November 2007 Date is unneeded (and, uhm, dated :) +The goal of hypervisor-assisted dump is to enable the dump of +a crashed system, and to do so from a

Re: [PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-08 Thread Michael Ellerman
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 22:29 -0600, Nathan Lynch wrote: Manish Ahuja wrote: + + Hypervisor-Assisted Dump + + November 2007 Date is unneeded (and, uhm, dated :) +The goal of hypervisor-assisted dump

[PATCH 1/8] pseries: phyp dump: Docmentation

2008-01-07 Thread Manish Ahuja
Basic documentation for hypervisor-assisted dump. Signed-off-by: Linas Vepstas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signed-off-by: Manish Ahuja [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation/powerpc/phyp-assisted-dump.txt | 129 +++ 1 file changed, 129 insertions(+) Index: