[IFWP] How this Relates to ICANN From: Privacy versus Security Paradox, was Re: what would be the expected role of an "abuse" contact?

1999-03-27 Thread Jeff Williams
Ed and all, Ed Gerck wrote: > Jeff Williams wrote: > > > > Ed and all, > > > > Ed Gerck wrote: > > > > In other words, on the operational level we may perceive that both > > > Internet and other organizational structures, as well as commerce in > > > various forms, all operate on similar pr

Re: [IFWP] Frauds, charlatans and the mentally ill

1999-03-27 Thread Jeff Williams
Franky and all, Bob on occasion. likes to stradel the fence, so to speak... >;) Frank Rizzo wrote: > > Let me be a little more forward Herr Doctor. I regard > > you in a similar manner to the other people I mention > > in my article. You are all fictitious. Products of > > mental illnesses o

[IFWP] FWD'ed upon request TO:[Fwd: [Fwd: Off Topic: Updating Subcsribed Email Address]]

1999-03-27 Thread Jeff Williams
-- Jeffrey A. Williams CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208 Hi Jeff, Would you please forward this to ifwp list an

Re: [IFWP] Frauds, charlatans and the mentally ill

1999-03-27 Thread Frank Rizzo
> Let me be a little more forward Herr Doctor. I regard > you in a similar manner to the other people I mention > in my article. You are all fictitious. Products of > mental illnesses or spoofing imaginations - or both! > I disregard (usually unread) anything issuing under > these names as varying

[IFWP] Re: Privacy versus Security Paradox, was Re: what would be the expected role of an "abuse" contact?

1999-03-27 Thread Jeff Williams
Ed and all, Ed Gerck wrote: > Jeff Williams wrote: > > > Kent Crispin wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 1999 at 11:33:47AM -0800, Ed Gerck wrote: > > > > > Of course, some believe that more security justifies less privacy. > > > > However, it is important to keep in mind that privacy is a long te

[IFWP] Let Them Dot Comm

1999-03-27 Thread Kerry Miller
http://bsd.mojones.com/mother_jones/ND97/erythromycin.html Let Them Eat Erythromycin By Rachel Burstein South Africa's health minister, Nkosazana Zuma, admires the generic-drugs policy in the U.S. so much that when she drafted her health care reform proposal, she called on the Food and Drug

[IFWP] ICANN Berlin meeting Remote Simultaneous Translation Project

1999-03-27 Thread Michael Sondow
Antoun Nabhan a écrit: > > Well, yes, that's right, too. It is the sort of situation where we can ask for five >and have three step forward? Even just asking takes time, and the odds are we won't even get three set up. I strongly recommend asking for three, and being ready to make do with two. T

Re: [IFWP] Deeper and deeper

1999-03-27 Thread Jeff Williams
Stef and all, ROFLMAO!!! Very good there stef. One observation here though. As you know worms are asexual! I wonder how that figures in to ICANN of WORMS! Food for thought possibly? >;) Einar Stefferud wrote: > Chuckle: The ICANN of WORMS;-)...\Stef > > >From your message Sat, 27 Mar 1

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Jeff Williams
Whomever you are and all, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote: > Roeland > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Roeland M.J. Meyer" writes: > > > Aw come-on doc. There is nothing illegal about it. There is no way, in a > > free society, that this can ever be illegal. > > Why is this list full of people who

Re: [IFWP] Deeper and deeper

1999-03-27 Thread Einar Stefferud
Chuckle: The ICANN of WORMS;-)...\Stef >From your message Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:02:55 -0500: } }Roeland, } }I haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. }What particular can 'o worms are you referring to? } }"Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote: }> }> Hello all, }> }> It occurs to me that we ke

Re: [IFWP] Deeper and deeper

1999-03-27 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
I apologize for not being more clear. ORSC proposed draft --> ICANN draft --> DNSO draft --> constituency draft --> infinitely deep rat-hole. We are spending more time doing documents that don't read materially different from the previous documents. When are we done? At 02:02 PM 3/27/99 -0500,

Re: [IFWP] Deeper and deeper

1999-03-27 Thread Dan Steinberg
Roeland, I haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. What particular can 'o worms are you referring to? "Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote: > > Hello all, > > It occurs to me that we keep digging deeper into this can o' worms and > finding ... more worms. What's more, they are beginning to

Re: [IFWP] Re: what would be the expected role of an "abuse" contact?

1999-03-27 Thread Dan Steinberg
Ken, first the mandatory disclaimer: I have never been a consultant to SAIC or NSI, but have no objection in principle to paid work for them. I am a member of the ICANN Membership Advisory Committee and a former member of the IFWP steering committee, although the following is most definitely in

[IFWP] Re: what would be the expected role of an "abuse" contact?

1999-03-27 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
Ken, >tony assumes that there would be no interest in the community to support >such an effort. >i think maybe he might be wrong here. I'm not sure what community you're talking about, or how you measure it. We're getting to the point here where these kinds of changes have major administrative

[IFWP] Deeper and deeper

1999-03-27 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
Hello all, It occurs to me that we keep digging deeper into this can o' worms and finding ... more worms. What's more, they are beginning to look exactly like the ones we already dug up. Now we need yet another set of documents for each constituency. It is beginning to appear that the documents

[IFWP] Re: what would be the expected role of an "abuse" contact?

1999-03-27 Thread Ken Stubbs
    tony assumes that there would be no interest in the community to support such an effort. i think maybe he might be wrong here..   by the way tony... is this your individual opinion or your opinion in your capacity as a "consultant" to SAIC or NSI ?   ken stubbs  p.s. my read is that NSI p

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Dan Steinberg
Can you both take this silliness off-list please? "Richard J. Sexton" wrote: > > At 06:14 PM 3/27/99 +0200, you wrote: > >Richard, > > > >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard J. Sexton" writes: > > > >> If there's some change I need to make to my MTA to make you happy > >> I'd like to know w

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
Hello el, It is appearing that I was the victim of a little projection on your part. I hope you don't mind if I resent that. You have a technical problem with Richard and you take it out on the whole ORSC. I just happened to be there, with the wrong message, at the wrong time, and you dump on me.

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard J. Sexton" writes: > At 06:14 PM 3/27/99 +0200, you wrote: > >Richard, > > > >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard J. Sexton" writes: > > > >> If there's some change I need to make to my MTA to make you happy > >> I'd like to know what it is, but I'm st

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 06:14 PM 3/27/99 +0200, you wrote: >Richard, > >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard J. Sexton" writes: > >> If there's some change I need to make to my MTA to make you happy >> I'd like to know what it is, but I'm still waiting for a response to >> this from a couple of days ago: > >I'd ap

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Richard, In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard J. Sexton" writes: > If there's some change I need to make to my MTA to make you happy > I'd like to know what it is, but I'm still waiting for a response to > this from a couple of days ago: I'd appreciate an extract from your log files showing

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
>I really don't mind ORSC's cuckoo land, they can send me mail from the >.MOON as much as I care, as long as they respond properly to the MTA's >rejection. > > >el If there's some change I need to make to my MTA to make you happy I'd like to know what it is, but I'm still waiting for a response t

Re: [IFWP] Re: Looks like Digital Signatures here to stay!

1999-03-27 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
Kerry, In a nutshell, you have the whole net-governance debate: can multiple states grasp that they will need to be consistent, and so work together -- or does a central father figure have to sort it out for them?  Which is more likely to inhibit innovation (e.g. a distributed network that au

[IFWP] Re: Looks like Digital Signatures here to stay!

1999-03-27 Thread Kerry Miller
"40 states currently have electronic authentication laws on the books that are not necessarily consistent, Only federal legislation can bring the nation up to speed with the technological advances that allow digital signatures to properly function." In a nutshell, you have the whole net-gove

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread William X. Walsh
On 27-Mar-99 Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote: > Willam > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "William X. Walsh" writes: > > > > > Aw come-on doc. There is nothing illegal about it. There is no way, in > > > > a > > > > free society, that this can ever be illegal. > > > > > > Why is this list fu

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Willam In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "William X. Walsh" writes: > > > Aw come-on doc. There is nothing illegal about it. There is no way, in a > > > free society, that this can ever be illegal. > > > > Why is this list full of people who negate the facts of life? > > Actually, Dr Lisse, I

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
At 12:14 PM 3/27/99 +0200, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote: >Roeland > >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Roeland M.J. Meyer" >writes: > >> Aw come-on doc. There is nothing illegal about it. There is no way, in a >> free society, that this can ever be illegal. > >Why is this list full of people who neg

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread William X. Walsh
On 27-Mar-99 Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote: > Roeland > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Roeland M.J. Meyer" > writes: > > > Aw come-on doc. There is nothing illegal about it. There is no way, in a > > free society, that this can ever be illegal. > > Why is this list full of people who n

[IFWP] Re: Frauds, charlatans and the mentally ill

1999-03-27 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Interesting Subject, interesting CC. In message , Bob Allisat writes: > Let me be a little more forward Herr Doctor. I regard > you in a similar manner to the other people I mention > in my article. And? You think I care? > You are all fic

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Roeland In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Roeland M.J. Meyer" writes: > Aw come-on doc. There is nothing illegal about it. There is no way, in a > free society, that this can ever be illegal. Why is this list full of people who negate the facts of life? > I, for one, have no problems sending t

[IFWP] Frauds, charlatans and the mentally ill

1999-03-27 Thread Bob Allisat
I, Bob Allisat, wrote: = Hm ... I was thinking similar thoughts about = Jeff Williams, Sam Hayes Merritt, III, Frank Rizzo = and *you*, good Herr Doctor. Placing unwanted, = unecessary and definately unethical strains on = resources at the recipient's end by discombobulating = our reality sen

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
In message , Bob Allisat writes: Hm ... I was thinking similar thoughts about > Jeff Williams, Sam Hayes Merritt, III, Frank Rizzo > and *you*, good Herr Doctor. Placing unwanted, > unecessary and definately unethical strains on > resou

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
Aw come-on doc. There is nothing illegal about it. There is no way, in a free society, that this can ever be illegal. I, for one, have no problems sending to the LIST TLD. A name is simply something that someone calls themselves. It is like saying that the name "Eberhard" is illegal and can't be u

[IFWP] routing around CENTRAL AUTHORITY

1999-03-27 Thread Bob Allisat
The critical failure point of an otherwise fairly robust network of computers is a kludged system of numbering, addressing and regulating various machines that attach to it. This system is susceptable both to undue and unjust human interventions as well as to simple failure and error factor

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Bob Allisat
Roeland Meyer writes: > Cute Richard . When did this TLD come up? Richard Sexton replied: + About 3 years ago. I noticed, after having run mailing lists for + over a decade now, that people refer to "the foo list" or "the bar + list" and figured the names (and addresses) of mailing lists would +

Re: [IFWP] Re: Public use of new gTLDs

1999-03-27 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Richard, In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard J. Sexton" writes: > At 05:35 PM 3/26/99 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: > >At 06:30 PM 3/26/99 -0500, Richard J. Sexton wrote: > > > >"Richard J. Sexton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Cute Richard . When did this TLD come up? > > About 3 years ag

Re: [IFWP] Curiouser and Curiouser!

1999-03-27 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Sondow writes: > Dr Eberhard W Lisse a =E9crit: > > > > Bob is Canadian, ain't he? > > Does that explain why he makes mistakes? He doesn't make mistakes. He's Bob!! el