Rob and all,
Rob Raisch wrote:
> Kent,
>
> While I appreciate your perspective (and realize the wealth of experience
> from which it emanates), I believe it suffers from an understandable form of
> establishmentarian myopia.
THis seems both a reasonable evaluation and one that points out how
Nobody says you have to send me email.
If you do, my signature file has addresses that will work for you.
At 06:54 PM 3/30/99 -0800, Greg Skinner wrote:
>Dr Eberhard W Lisse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>
>> I AM COMPLAINING THAT I DO NOT WANT TO REACH THESE ADDRESSES AND I
>> DON`T WANT TO
Franky and all,
ROFLMAO!! Very good there Franky!
Frank Rizzo wrote:
> Why 13 Servers in the Root?
>
> To represent the peacful one and his 12 desciples? The twelve chromatic
> notes and the 13th jump to the next ocatave? To emulate the structure of
> the thirteen original colonies? Because
Dr Eberhard W Lisse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I AM COMPLAINING THAT I DO NOT WANT TO REACH THESE ADDRESSES AND I
> DON`T WANT TO BE FORCED TO REACH THEM!!!
[...]
> I am asking to have their misconfigured MTAs brought in line. They
> can play with whatever they want. I just don't
Why 13 Servers in the Root?
To represent the peacful one and his 12 desciples? The twelve chromatic
notes and the 13th jump to the next ocatave? To emulate the structure of
the thirteen original colonies? Because It forms the thirteen cluster grid
needed to form Metatron's Cube from which can be
Tim and all,
Tim Salo wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:11:29 +
> > From: Jeff Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Draft Poisson minutes
> > [...]
> > Fred, you are way over dramatizing here. ...
> >
> > There are many areas of the US that have very limited hardware
>
Karoline and all,
As we are seeing with the DNSO with more and more frequency,
the idea of having classes or "Constituency's" in a membership structure
are very divisive and lead down a very slippery political slope that is
both non-productive in their existence and a form of gerrymandering
tha
Fred and all,
Fred, you are way over dramatizing here. Although you over dramatization
is a amusing, it is neither appropriate or useful for purposes of
discussion on this subject area. I also observe as you
are a representative of a hardware vendor of some note,
that you have obvious reasons
George and all,
Good points here George, and I completely agree. ARIN has been
in question for it's very existence ever sense Jon Postel (Once a member
of the ARIN Board) decided to split up IP allocation assignments
due to the IANA's inability to handle the load back in early 1996.
Their poli
All,
Check this out. Very interesting.
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number: 972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
This
Jim and all,
Jim, this doesn't seem quite proper procedure form ARIN I agree.
Thank you for informing of this one. You could contact ARIN
directly and see if there can be anything done of this. You best
bet however is to go over their head to the NTIA and Becky Burr.
I am copying her on this re
All,
FYI!
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number: 972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
Subject: Date of Publication of WI
All,
FYI! Note, interesting information on IETF take on PSO
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number: 972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grape
All,
Another FYI! Is ARIN playing games yet again with IP address
assingment? Looks like it!
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number: 972-447-1894
Addres
Bill,
> When
> you (or ICANN, NTIA, UNESCO, NAACP, NFL or whoever) agrees that Sam
> down the street gets the TLD .sam, then bully for him, but whatever
> relationship that may have with Sam's real business and whatever its
> trademarks may be would be quite nebulous.
>
What with that Sheriff
Bob Allisat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greg Skinner writes:
>> (edit)... You should not expect "government" or "science" to be able
>> to solve any problem that comes along, particularly when those problems
>> are highly complex and controversial.
> Dammit Greg that's just when so-called gove
At 2:14 AM -0800 3/30/99, Bob Allisat wrote:
> People aren't so stupid that they can't
> live without dot com this or www that.
> We've been doing quite well without them
> for millenia thank you very much. And
> the rest of the technical mumbo jumbo
> can be easily handled by the modern
> compute
Ronda Hauben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But this is precisely why there is government and there is science.
> There will be private sector companies that can make a mint off
> of the pollution of the public water supply and thus they will
> become strong advocates of doing nothing to solve the
At 04:14 PM 3/29/99 -0600, you wrote:
Well, here's another one into my filter file. Messrs. Allisate and
Merritt can happily exchange obscenities in my trash barrel.
Bill Lovell
>On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Bob Allisat wrote:
>
>> Hm ... I was thinking similar thoughts about
>> Jeff Williams, Sam
Ronda Hauben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the talk [given at Harvard in 1960] C.P. Snow raises the dilemma
> posed by modern society in which science raises important problems
> and that government has to deal with these problems, but that too
> often decisions about these problems are made in
Greg Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Possibly, but what happens if either "government" or "science"
encounters problems that may not be technically unsolvable, but are
>practically unsolvable because of the high level of politics and
controversy that surrounds them, so much so that it actua
At 11:03 AM 3/29/99 -0800, you wrote:
>At 08:10 AM 3/29/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:
>>On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 11:48:19PM -0800, Bill Lovell wrote:
>>[...]
>>>
>>> In short, the letter code that defines some subset
>>> of the nearly infinite domain name space, whether
>>> that letter code be "pe
Greg Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ronda wrote:
>>The whole conception of ICANN is fundamentally flawed. It
>is embodying conflict of interest as a principle, and will
>continue to do so with its membership structure if it adopts
>>one. The fundamental problem
Hi Roberto,
History is often disputed --
I stand by my statements.
Jay.
At 01:32 PM 3/30/99 , Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>Jay,
>
>You wrote (answering to Kent Crispin):
>
>> Anyway, David had questioned the last
>> line in the following paragraph:
>>
>> "The gTLD-MoU was controversial becau
Jay,
You wrote (answering to Kent Crispin):
> Anyway, David had questioned the last
> line in the following paragraph:
>
> "The gTLD-MoU was controversial because it would have
> confiscated all generic Top Level Domains, not only from
> startups like IO Design (who had been running the .w
At 10:03 AM 3/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Woo Wei Xian(Zen) (Exch) a écrit:
>>
>> >Stupid media. There just as bad as lawers when it comes to the truth at
>> >times
>
>They can't be as bad as lawyers, can they? :)
Now, now. You children play nice, hear?
Bill Lovell
Actually, most funding is to universities and
other non-profit institutions where a
requirement is that the results are published freely so that the benefits
of the
research are available to all. Outside of reseach under constraints
of national
security, any assertion of proprietary rights is sub
Richard J. Sexton wrote:
>
> Most NSF priograms for new technology funded it on the premise that the
> contractor must find a way to be self supporting after a while. The idea
> was to make a business out of whatever they were doing under a grant.
Actually, most funding is to universities and
Mr. Xian-
While you may find the subject of the Melissa virus interesting, I
do not, and I am not at all amused to find twenty messages from you,
posted to the ap-forum and IFWP lists, in my mail this morning. Why
are you copying all the messages from one list to another?
I think you are abusing
Woo Wei Xian(Zen) (Exch) a écrit:
>
> >Stupid media. There just as bad as lawers when it comes to the truth at
> >times
They can't be as bad as lawyers, can they? :)
At 11:30 PM 3/29/99 -0800, Bill Lovell wrote:
>At 01:21 AM 3/21/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
>> As you can see from this sample of a post to the Isp-Webhosting list (and
>> significant discussion is also on-going on the Isp-Tech and other related
>> lists) that ISPs are seriously and signific
All this conflict over names and numbers!
What a silly mess. Numbers can be generated
in an infinite sequence and pretty much
automatically allocated to one and all for
next to nothing. And address names can be
pretty much anything people like or wish
to utilize in any language character s
William and all,
Well WIlliam, it appears that yet again, you have totally mislead,
and completely misread the gist of this article that you posted
here. I did not see any mention of NSI spamming anyone. However
I did see yet again Mike Roberts posturing and making false and
misleading statem
Hello Zen,
Between Nanog, CERT advisories (CA), and the discussion on NTbugTraq, I get
lots of junk on this Mellissa macro virus already. I don't need to see it
here as well. If you are interested, I can send you a copy of the CERT
advisory. That goes for anyone else on this list. Although, most
Mark Jeftovic writes:
= Minimum requirements mean the entity means business and are serious,
= and can be taken seriously. Grass roots activists get bored easily
= and move from one lofty ideal to the next.
Kevin M. Kelly replies:
> While I completely agree that minimum requirement are a necessi
Were all these forwards to a list not related to viruses really necessary or
appropriate?
On 30-Mar-99 Woo Wei Xian(Zen) (Exch) wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Czerak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 3:38 A
-Original Message-
From: Jason Czerak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Systalk] Mellissa virus and media hype
>Matthew McGehrin wrote:
>
>> On 29 Mar 99, at 12:10, Emanuel Levy wrote:
>>
>> > While your sys
-Original Message-
From: Jason Czerak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 8:23 PM
Subject: [Systalk] Mellissa virus and media hype
>Well this funny little virus was on tv this morning. According to the
>tv:
>
>1. Every computer is
-Original Message-
From: Sean DeSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Systalk] Mellissa virus and media hype
>Well... i use windows... i use outlook express...
>
>and I got no e-mail with a word document
-Original Message-
From: Kurt A. Huhn MCSE, CNA, MCP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Systalk] Mellissa virus and media hype
>This virus:
>1. affects Windows only
>2. is contained in a Word document as a Mac
-Original Message-
From: Mark Symonds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Systalk] Mellissa virus and media hype
>> Matthew McGehrin wrote:
>>
>> > Its only NT servers that can't handle the load.
>> >
>>
>
-Original Message-
From: Matthew McGehrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 3:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Systalk] Mellissa virus and media hype
On 29 Mar 99, at 12:10, Emanuel Levy wrote:
> While your system may not be directly affecte
-Original Message-
From: Domi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Systalk] Mellissa virus and media hype
>>
>> This virus:
>> 1. affects Windows only
>> 2. is contained in a Word document as a Macro
>> 3. is on
Greg Skinner writes:
> Possibly, but what happens if either "government" or "science"
> encounters problems that may not be technically unsolvable, but are
> practically unsolvable because of the high level of politics and
> controversy that surrounds them, so much so that it actually drains
> th
Kent and all,
Kent Crispin wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 11:03:36AM -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> > At 08:10 AM 3/29/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:
> > >On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 11:48:19PM -0800, Bill Lovell wrote:
> > >[...]
> > >>
> > >> In short, the letter code that defines some subset
On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 11:03:36AM -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> At 08:10 AM 3/29/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:
> >On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 11:48:19PM -0800, Bill Lovell wrote:
> >[...]
> >>
> >> In short, the letter code that defines some subset
> >> of the nearly infinite domain name space,
On 30-Mar-99 Bill Lovell wrote:
> At 09:29 PM 3/28/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> > At 07:02 PM 3/28/99 -0800, Bill Lovell wrote:
> > >At 04:53 PM 3/26/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > We're talking past each other. In your example, the regulator does
> > >NOT own "KOIN," "WPBS," etc., in spite of th
At 01:21 AM 3/21/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
> As you can see from this sample of a post to the Isp-Webhosting list (and
> significant discussion is also on-going on the Isp-Tech and other related
> lists) that ISPs are seriously and significantly concerned as well. This
> has been the busi
At 09:29 PM 3/28/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
> At 07:02 PM 3/28/99 -0800, Bill Lovell wrote:
> >At 04:53 PM 3/26/99 -0500, you wrote:
> We're talking past each other. In your example, the regulator does
> >NOT own "KOIN," "WPBS," etc., in spite of the fact that it "owns,"
> >i.e., has control of
All,
And again I will add or respond, the divisiveness continues
Jay Fenello wrote:
> At 01:47 AM 3/29/99 , Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> >Michael,
> >
> >You wrote:
> >
> >> FYI, the ICIIU is organizing non-commercial individual and
> >> organizational domain name holders to join the NCDNHC (
Miles,
I believe that you are exactly correct. And you stated it quite well.
Just to let you know, we are working on getting several gTLD's
Trademarked that we have been using internally. We will than be making
them available to anyone to register Domains under in the near future.
If you or a
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