[IFWP] A crock

http://www.icann.org/comments-mail/comment-pso/maillist.html ...they all are apparently told to post an endorsement and they do... ...this reminds me of the time on a RIPE list where some TLD guy posted a note and forgot to remove the part telling him to do it... PS. I was told in Berlin that "T

Re: [IFWP] Little Local ISP's big corp Giant Killers?

On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:26:51 -0700, "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A short story, PacBell spent close to 1.6 Billion (yes, that's a "B") >building a broadband HFC system. AT&T succeeded in getting the CPUC to >force PacBell to lease access to the system. This in spite of the fact

[IFWP] Re: [IFWP] Press Communiqué

On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 12:00:13AM -0400, Gordon Cook wrote: > with the hope that NSI will be stupid enough to sign their registrar > guidelines, they are trying to use NSI to construct a laboratory to be > used in luring the rest of us inside so that they can do to us whatever > they wish. i ha

RE: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

Gordon Cook wrote: > > reynolds: > > > > >As has Gordon, if he really believes that NSI can simply walk > away from the > >Cooperative Agreement. Such an action would be a disaster for all > >concerned, and would most assuredly *not* leave NSI in control > of either the > >root or .com/.net/.or

Re: [IFWP] Little Local ISP's big corp Giant Killers?

On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:44:50 +0100, Jeff Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >All, > > Major GIP supporter AT&T gets wupped by little local service >providers! >See: http://www.cnnfn.com/digitaljam/wires/9906/04/isp_wg/#TOP > > Is the a potential future for the ICANN and the DNSO? > If you rea

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:29:32 -0400, Gordon Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >no william, you spare me the hot air. > >how do you think amazon.com, or ebay, or sun, or any of the other major >companies doing intyernet commerce would react to uunet, sprint, mci, geti, >psi obediantly directing that

Re: [IFWP] Press CommuniquéDate : Fri, 4 Jun 99 22:10:45 -0400

At 01:32 AM 6/5/99, you wrote: >I'm confused. > >I just re-read the ICANN Press Communiqué from Berlin. > >In the press release (written by the PR firm, not ICANN) is this sentence: > > The Initial Board noted that a uniform dispute settlement > mechanism was a necessary element of a competiti

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

no william, you spare me the hot air. how do you think amazon.com, or ebay, or sun, or any of the other major companies doing intyernet commerce would react to uunet, sprint, mci, geti, psi obediantly directing that they take new root .cache files from a newly designated root operator given the

[IFWP] Little Local ISP's big corp Giant Killers?

All, Major GIP supporter AT&T gets wupped by little local service providers! See: http://www.cnnfn.com/digitaljam/wires/9906/04/isp_wg/#TOP Is the a potential future for the ICANN and the DNSO? Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. In

Re: [IFWP] Press Communiqué

with the hope that NSI will be stupid enough to sign their registrar guidelines, they are trying to use NSI to construct a laboratory to be used in luring the rest of us inside so that they can do to us whatever they wish. i have talked to four different people today and all four are of the emph

Re: [IFWP] Re: Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Kerry and all, Good point here Kerry. >;) Kerry Miller wrote: > Dave, > > Only through considerable pressure have people like Rutkowski and > > Fenello finally acknowledged their affiliation to NSI -- while > > simultaneously ly claiming that taking money from NSI doesn't > > affect their op

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:35:15 -0400, Gordon Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >reynolds: > >> >>As has Gordon, if he really believes that NSI can simply walk away from the >>Cooperative Agreement. Such an action would be a disaster for all >>concerned, and would most assuredly *not* leave NSI in

[IFWP] Re: Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Dave, > Only through considerable pressure have people like Rutkowski and > Fenello finally acknowledged their affiliation to NSI -- while > simultaneously ly claiming that taking money from NSI doesn't > affect their opinion. It's a bit like the question whether you've stopped beating your wif

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

reynolds: > >As has Gordon, if he really believes that NSI can simply walk away from the >Cooperative Agreement. Such an action would be a disaster for all >concerned, and would most assuredly *not* leave NSI in control of either the >root or .com/.net/.org when the smoke cleared. cook defen

Re: [IFWP] Press Communiqué

On Fri, 4 Jun 99 22:10:45 -0400, "Bret A. Fausett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm confused. > >I just re-read the ICANN Press Communiqué from Berlin. > >In the press release (written by the PR firm, not ICANN) is this sentence: > > The Initial Board noted that a uniform dispute settlement >

Re: [IFWP] Press Communiqué

Bret A. Fausett a écrit: > In the press release (written by the PR firm, not ICANN) is this sentence: > > The Initial Board noted that a uniform dispute settlement > mechanism was a necessary element of a competitive > registrar system. The Initial Board noted that the > scope of this po

[IFWP] Press Communiqué

I'm confused. I just re-read the ICANN Press Communiqué from Berlin. In the press release (written by the PR firm, not ICANN) is this sentence: The Initial Board noted that a uniform dispute settlement mechanism was a necessary element of a competitive registrar system. The Initial Boa

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:25:54 -0400, "A.M. Rutkowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>why? defend your assertion >> >>iCANN has no legally enforcable power and no money to pay its legal bills. > >Gordon, > >John's assertion is not very defensible. However, >the more interesting question is why a

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

why?  defend your assertion iCANN has no legally enforcable power and no money to pay its legal bills. Gordon, John's assertion is not very defensible.  However, the more interesting question is why a "35 year old computer technical analyst residing in Chicago, Illinois, USA" with a US domain a

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

>> >No, ICANN would just contract it out to someone else a year or so earlier >> >than planned. >> >> You've seriously understimated the complexity of the problem. >> > >As has Gordon, if he really believes that NSI can simply walk away from the >Cooperative Agreement. Such an action would be a d

Re: [IFWP] "High Priority" messages

Since some people insist on not following net etiquette, perhaps the list software could be set to strip Priority headers on list traffic. There is no useful purpose for it on mailing lists anyway. Richard? On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:54:40 +0100, Jeff Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Chris an

Re: [IFWP] "High Priority" messages

Chris and all, That is terrible the you are so bothered. Maybe resetting your rules for your inbox reset to something more appropriate would be in order. Just a suggestion of course... Christopher Ambler wrote: > Might I politely request that the posters to this list not use the "high > p

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

reynolds: >If NSI were to try to abrogate to Cooperative Agreement as suggested by Mr. >Cook, its resultant legal battle with the USG would leave them with few >remaining resources to use to fend off ICANN. > cook: why? defend your assertion iCANN has no legally enforcable power and no money

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

reynolds: > >Once the other root servers stopped pointing to NSI, it wouldn't matter >whether its computers were on or not. > cook you are out of your mind. no one except the DNS operators of the largest commercial networks is going to decide what root.cache files would be used reynolds >O

[IFWP] "High Priority" messages

Might I politely request that the posters to this list not use the "high priority" feature except when absolutely warranted? I have my inbox rules set to forward any email that I receive, with the priority set to high, to my pager. Lately, many posts have been so marked that were not priority at a

[IFWP] Network Solutions' Robert J. Korzeniewski Named CFO of the Year

All, FYI: http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?day0/191551297&ticker=nsol Funny, I didn't see Edventure even in the running... Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL

Re: [dnso.discuss] Re: [IFWP] Re: Tell him "Enough!", Ms. Van Houweling

William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 06:30:36 +0100, Jeff Williams > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >William and all, > > > > I believe, as do many others which have posted on this ongoing bad > >situation with the Non-commercial Domain Name Constituency, that > >Micha

Re: [IFWP] Intellectual Property Constituency

On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 09:32:44 +0100, Jeff Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mikki and all, > > Thank you Mikki for providing this information. And please include me >as the spokesman for INEGroup in this Constituency. I do have a few >questions however... Consider this reply as my interest

Re: [IFWP] Re: [dnso.discuss] Tell him "Enough!", Ms. Van Houweling

On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 06:30:36 +0100, Jeff Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >William and all, > > I believe, as do many others which have posted on this ongoing bad >situation with the Non-commercial Domain Name Constituency, that >Michael Sondow is correct. Can you read? The point wasn't tha

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

Richard J. Sexton wrote: > At 03:47 PM 6/4/99 -0500, you wrote: > > > >A.M. Rutkowski wrote: > >> At 03:48 PM 6/4/99 , you wrote: > >> >enter into a new Cooperative Agreement with ICANN to run the root and > >> >.com/.net/.org. > >> > >> Yeah, right. Dyson's going to run it off her > >> little l

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

>Only through considerable pressure have people like Rutkowski and Fenello >finally acknowledged their affiliation to NSI -- while simultaneously ly >claiming that taking money from NSI doesn't affect their opinion. How many >others have not? Good point. I don't recall Jon Postel ever mention

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

At 03:47 PM 6/4/99 -0500, you wrote: > >A.M. Rutkowski wrote: >> At 03:48 PM 6/4/99 , you wrote: >> >enter into a new Cooperative Agreement with ICANN to run the root and >> >.com/.net/.org. >> >> Yeah, right. Dyson's going to run it off her >> little laptop. :-) I'm sure customers will >> floc

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

If NSI were to try to abrogate to Cooperative Agreement as suggested by Mr. Cook, its resultant legal battle with the USG would leave them with few remaining resources to use to fend off ICANN. Christopher Ambler wrote: > The root is an open issue, but I suspect that ICANN will have a very > diff

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

Gordon Cook wrote: > >Gordon Cook wrote: > >> As ICANN and Commerce continue their arrogant bluster, they might do well > >> to remember that NSI can terminate its participation in the cooperative > >> agreement whenever it chooses. > > > >Assuming NSI is willing to both lose its antitrust protec

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

The root is an open issue, but I suspect that ICANN will have a very difficult time getting NSI to give up com/net/org, and should they just ignore NSI and start to run it themselves, I also suspect that the legal battle would dwarf anything even imagined to date. Quite honestly, I don't know wher

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

A.M. Rutkowski wrote: > At 03:48 PM 6/4/99 , you wrote: > >enter into a new Cooperative Agreement with ICANN to run the root and > >.com/.net/.org. > > Yeah, right. Dyson's going to run it off her > little laptop. :-) I'm sure customers will > flock to that one. > No, ICANN would just contrac

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

laughlet me assuage your sly, inneundo-slickened, conspiratorial mind by saying as I have said before that the only payment i recive from NSI is the annual subscription fee for my newsletter. I have heard it said of Tony R that he wouild hold the same opinion of NSI no matter whether he were

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

>Gordon Cook wrote: >> As ICANN and Commerce continue their arrogant bluster, they might do well >> to remember that NSI can terminate its participation in the cooperative >> agreement whenever it chooses. > >Assuming NSI is willing to both lose its antitrust protection and watch NTIA >enter into

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

At 03:48 PM 6/4/99 , you wrote: >enter into a new Cooperative Agreement with ICANN to run the root and >.com/.net/.org. Yeah, right. Dyson's going to run it off her little laptop. :-) I'm sure customers will flock to that one. --tony

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Ken and all, Well this explains allot about you Ken. You must be suffering form that common malady that older people get frequently known as paranoid dementia. I would suggest to you that a Loong rest at one of those nice retirement communities would be in order Ken Stubbs wrote: >

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

It is a serious question to which you should provide a serious answer to the original recipients. >no sale gordon > >i was required to turn in in my decoder ring and my 2- way wrist radio as >well as pay $8 in order to be able to receive my AARP card when i turned >55. > > > > > >- O

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

Gordon Cook wrote: > As ICANN and Commerce continue their arrogant bluster, they might do well > to remember that NSI can terminate its participation in the cooperative > agreement whenever it chooses. Assuming NSI is willing to both lose its antitrust protection and watch NTIA enter into a new

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

At 03:01 PM 6/4/99 -0400, Gordon Cook wrote: >Tell me Ken, Since CORE is a foreign corporation and you are clearly an >agent acting on its behalf have you registed with US DOJ under the Foreign >Agents Registration Act? Gordon, it's really strange that you are so interested in this procedural

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

no sale gordon i was required to turn in in my decoder ring and my 2- way wrist radio as well as pay $8 in order to be able to receive my AARP card when i turned 55. - Original Message - From: Gordon Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Ken Stubbs <[EMAIL PROT

[IFWP] Mail to itaa is bouncing

Ie, everybody with an @itaa address is bouncing; I'll have to sunscbscribe them. If anybody knows them please ask them to re-subscribe (at http://lists.ifwp.org) then they fix their problem) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember, amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titani

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

> >No, we would have had ONE gTLD registry, and lots of registrars. Hardly > >fair competition. The IAHC was a power grab, well put down. > > The likelihood of multiple registries changed dramatically over the course > of debate, back then. Apparently you missed it. Didn't miss it at all. It had

[IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

As ICANN and Commerce continue their arrogant bluster, they might do well to remember that NSI can terminate its participation in the cooperative agreement whenever it chooses. The COOK Report on Internet | New handbook

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

At 11:10 AM 6/4/99 -0700, Christopher Ambler wrote: > > Had Magaziner not thrown own the Interagency Task Force report -- which > > supported the IAHC -- and written the micro-management approach in the > > original green Paper, IANA would have evolved on its own initiative and we > > would, by no

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Tell me Ken, Since CORE is a foreign corporation and you are clearly an agent acting on its behalf have you registed with US DOJ under the Foreign Agents Registration Act? where do Captain Kirk and Scottie fit into this purported plot gordon ? > >

Re: [IFWP] Intellectual Property Constituency

Bret and all, Bret A. Fausett wrote: > >Also, they are soliciting comments by July 4 on whether the WIPO proposals > >should be 1) broadened to include all commercial disputes... > > Please explain. > > ICANN is empowered to "set policy for and direct the allocation of IP > number blocks, overse

Re: [IFWP] Intellectual Property Constituency

At 01:43 PM 6/4/99 -0400, you wrote: >>Also, they are soliciting comments by July 4 on whether the WIPO proposals >>should be 1) broadened to include all commercial disputes... > >Please explain. > >ICANN is empowered to "set policy for and direct the allocation of IP >number blocks, oversee the

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

> Had Magaziner not thrown own the Interagency Task Force report -- which > supported the IAHC -- and written the micro-management approach in the > original green Paper, IANA would have evolved on its own initiative and we > would, by now, have more gTLD registries. No, we would have had ONE gTL

Re: [IFWP] Intellectual Property Constituency

>Also, they are soliciting comments by July 4 on whether the WIPO proposals >should be 1) broadened to include all commercial disputes... Please explain. ICANN is empowered to "set policy for and direct the allocation of IP number blocks, oversee the operation of the Internet root server syste

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Gordon Cook wrote: > You are right Jay. and Lessig was/is absolutely right too. The GAC was > planned from the earliest stages of ICANN as a body of gov't types who > could use the ICANN shell and the built in mutability of the ICANN by laws > to rule the internet through IC

Re: [IFWP] Intellectual Property Constituency

Mikki and all, Thank you Mikki for providing this information. And please include me as the spokesman for INEGroup in this Constituency. I do have a few questions however... Consider this reply as my interest in this area... 1.) Is there a membership yet for this constituency? 2.) Will this

Re: [IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

Gordon and all,   Esther Dyson never has in reality of in fact of action supported openness of any sort.  Anyone that has been following CLOSELY what she says and than observes what she DOES with respect to her position on the ICANN Interim Board will bare this out from the very beginning.   I al

[IFWP] Intellectual Property Constituency

DNRC was invited to a conference call of the Intellectual Property Constituency this morning. At this meeting, it was stated that individuals and organizations who wished inclusion could be given "observer" status and have access to conference calls and information regarding what was going on wit

[IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

You are absolutely correct Jay. Esther's protestions that she really favors open board meetings have worn thin. Either she was duped or she knew very well from the very beginning the nature of the assignment that she was accepting. If she was duped and really believes in open meeting and an o

RE: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

At 10:06 AM 6/4/99 -0400, A.M. Rutkowski wrote: >At 09:13 AM 6/4/99 , Roberto wrote: >>I have the feeling that USG is getting more worried on how best to deal with > >The "USG" is actually far more complex than just >a couple of staff in Executive Branch agencies. :-) One of those two Executive B

[IFWP] Re: Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

At 10:40 AM 6/4/99 , Jay Fenello wrote: So while Paul Twomey and others warn that the consequences of an ICANN failure is government intervention, I say *great*.  At least we'll have the protection of law that keeps governments in check, and responsive to their citizens. The threat of government i

[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from ["Roeland M.J. Meyer" ]

>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 03:48:04 -0400 (EDT) >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: BOUNCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Non-member submission from ["Roeland M.J. Meyer" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > >>From mhsc.com!rmeyer Fri Jun 4 03:48:03 1999 >Return-

[IFWP] radio show

on monday, june 7 at 1-2pm west coast (berkeley) time, KPFA radio has a show called Computer Access. this week the subject is 'internet governance'. this is you basic talk show, with guests. so far Gordon Cook has agreed to participate, and there will be listener call-ins. as is appropriate to th

RE: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

>Magaziner and Lessig's comments, as well as Paul Twomey's comments at the >Berlin GAC forum on the suject of what ICANN's successor would be if it were >to fail, suggest that few on this list other than Ms. Hauben would consider >the likely result of such a review to be an improvement. > well b

[IFWP] Esther Dyson Sells Out Internet Community

Esther Dyson, interim chairman of ICANN, member of the board of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and member of the Council on Foreign Relations as well as many other organizations, has sold out the Internet Community in a big way. This "first lady" of Internet Governance *could* have gone do

RE: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

At 09:13 AM 6/4/99 , Roberto wrote: Do you *really* think that USG should now try to redo everything from scratch once again? I have the feeling that USG is getting more worried on how best to deal with The "USG" is actually far more complex than just a couple of staff in Executive Branch agenci

[IFWP] Re: dnso.org - Some additional information requested...

Elisabeth and all, Elisabeth PORTENEUVE wrote: > Dear Collegues, > > First of all, let me express out gratitude to all persons > who had in charge the initial dnso.org site in Geneva. > > The new dnso.org site in Paris is ready, and will be reachable as soon > as the Internic modification has be

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

where do Captain Kirk and Scottie fit into this purported plot gordon ? - Original Message - From: Gordon Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Becky Burr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Esther Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Jay and all, Agreed with your conclusion. It is indeed time to review again... Jay Fenello wrote: > >From the archives: > > = > > http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/domnam/TWB19980611S0009 > > Magaziner, Lessig Spar Over Domain Name Plan > (06/11/98, 2:46 p.m. ET) > By Mo

[IFWP] Re: [dnso.discuss] Re: [IDNO:119] Support Statement

William and all, The NCDNHC is open. It just does not allow commercial domain name holders as members. This is as it should be as it is supposed to represent ONLY non-commercial Domain name holders. This is not the case with the IDNO of course, which is also as it should be. What the ISOC

RE: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Magaziner and Lessig's comments, as well as Paul Twomey's comments at the Berlin GAC forum on the suject of what ICANN's successor would be if it were to fail, suggest that few on this list other than Ms. Hauben would consider the likely result of such a review to be an improvement. Jay Fenello

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

You are right Jay. and Lessig was/is absolutely right too. The GAC was planned from the earliest stages of ICANN as a body of gov't types who could use the ICANN shell and the built in mutability of the ICANN by laws to rule the internet through ICANN from behind the scenes. Magaziner, Cerf, Ro

[IFWP] Addintional information requested.

Javier and all, Where on the new DNSO.ORG site are the archives for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list? There does not seem to be a link on that site presently... Javier SOLA wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be shut down any minute. > > While propagation of the new IP ad

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Jay and all, Jay, you are far to gracious with respect to Esther Dyson. I just finished reading her latest book. It is the most disjointed thing I believe I have ever read in recent times. It is evident that Esther Dyson doesn't practice what she preaches. Her propensity of being disingenuo

[IFWP] About New DNSO.ORG Mailing lists

Javier and all, Thank you for providing this information. Very helpful indeed. In addition I would add it is very interesting to note the current changes in the lists rule. Note Singular denotation. However I have a few questions: 1.) Whom is the moderator of this list? 2.) What governs th

Re: [IFWP] Re: [dnso.discuss] Tell him "Enough!", Ms. Van Houweling

William and all, I believe, as do many others which have posted on this ongoing bad situation with the Non-commercial Domain Name Constituency, that Michael Sondow is correct. So do the majority of the INEGroup (Some 90k members), as well as from Joop T's comments it seems does the IDNO as wel

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Roberto and all, You make and good point here. However to my knowledge and according the NTIA web pages, there has been NO announcement of a complete review process of the ICANN process to date. Hence, I can only logically conclude that that your assertion here is unfounded as it is without a

[IFWP] Re: What alternative is there to NSI?

John and all, Again respectfully I disagree with this evaluation. ICANN could have but did not insist on the SRS code to be open-source code. After all it basis was developed under the IETF, was it not? The fact that the ICANN did not do this is indicative of their lack of understanding and

RE: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Jay Fenello reported: > >From the archives: > > = > > > http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/domnam/TWB19980611S0009 > > Magaziner, Lessig Spar Over Domain Name Plan > (06/11/98, 2:46 p.m. ET) > By Mo Krochmal, TechWeb > > NEW YORK -- Ira Magaziner, the Clinton administrati

Re: [IFWP] Magaziner, Lessig Spar

Dave, What would not be bizarre, then? I would hesitantly suggest only those brave enough to believe in absolute human freedoms, free-wills untouched by history or outside influence can posit the structures you are suggesting. Good academic, analytic, marxists like Prof. Lessig and Mr. Magazine