Jonathan and all, I don't know of any member that has "Forfeited" anything. If so, under what pretense is this claim determined, and whom determined it? Such a claim without being determined is just a comment intended to inflame an already terrible and fraudulent situation that can without much trouble be corrected. Jonathan Weinberg wrote: > At 07:39 AM 11/16/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote (with respect to proposals > that the GA, instead of sending to the NC *all* names with the support of > 10 endorsers, adopt a procedure under which it sends over only the X names > with the most support): > > >On the other side, what practical benefit do we gain by being > >restrictive? I don't see any. From my perspective it just seems like > >further sustenance for the "we vs them" engram... > > It would be desirable, I think, for the GA chair to have strong support in > the GA. A problem with the "send over everybody with 10 endorsers" > approach, it seems to me, is that it doesn't meet that criterion: It's > relatively easy for a person to get the minimum number of endorsers without > regard to the breadth or depth of his support in the GA as a whole. The > advantage of the "send over the X names with the most support" approach is > that everyone on the list will have a somewhat stronger level of support > within the GA. (The level of support gets weaker, although the likelihood > that the NC will approve the procedure gets stronger, as X increases.) > > John Klensin, for whom I have great respect, urges that we simply can't > get it together at this point to have voting, given the potential noise as > to which list members are not actual people, have forfeited the right to > participate, etc. I'm disturbed too as to the state of the GA. But I > think that we may see much of the same noise even with a "send over > everybody with N endorsers" approach. And if the NC is willing to approve > a procedure under which it can select a chair only from the X names with > the most support within the GA, I think it's worth it for us to try to find > those X names, rather than simply letting the disrupters prevail. > > Jon > > Jonathan Weinberg > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208