Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-08 Thread Dave Crocker
At 11:06 AM 2/5/99 -0800, Karl Auerbach wrote: > >> ...say things like "open is open", like it was some kind of >> absolute characteristic, instead of the rather vague relative >> charactistic it actually is. > >My metric is this: > >A system is "open" if there is a means for an effective two-way

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-06 Thread Einar Stefferud
May I respectfully suggest that Ellen add a section to her Grey Ribbon pages for "Objectors" and place messages such as Kent's on that page for public viewing. After all, he posted it to a public list so it is now in the public domain, and he surely wishes that his position be widely known. So

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Diane Cabell
Karl Auerbach wrote: > My metric is this: > > A system is "open" if there is a means for an effective two-way dialog > between "outsiders" and the body which is purported to be "open". Gosh, I really like that.

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Ellen Rony
Kent Crispin wrote: >I thought the pattern was rather striking in the context of a message >titled "spin doctoring", and that pattern would make me feel >uncomfortable displaying a grey ribbon even if I was otherwise >inclined to do so. The subject header is the title of an article published by

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Michael Sondow
Kent Crispin a écrit: > > On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 09:14:43PM -0800, Ellen Rony wrote: > > Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor (February 4) by Leander Kahney > > > [...] > > More than a dozen websites have joined a Grey Ribbon Campaign to bring > > ICANN out of the

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Karl Auerbach
> ...say things like "open is open", like it was some kind of > absolute characteristic, instead of the rather vague relative > charactistic it actually is. My metric is this: A system is "open" if there is a means for an effective two-way dialog between "outsiders" and the body which is purpor

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Kent Crispin
On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 10:39:48AM -0500, Ron Fitzherbert wrote: > Kent, > > How is it now for some reason you have made me feel uncomfortable for > displaying the grey ribbon? > > Ron, (member of PAB and still a supporter of the gTLD-MOU - which doesn't > mean I don't support ICANN (doesn't mea

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Ron Fitzherbert
es something to be desired) On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Kent Crispin wrote: > On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 09:14:43PM -0800, Ellen Rony wrote: > > Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor (February 4) by Leander Kahney > > > [...] > > More than a dozen websites have joined a Grey Ribbon Campaig

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "William X. Walsh" writes: > > On 05-Feb-99 Kent Crispin wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 09:14:43PM -0800, Ellen Rony wrote: > >> Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor (February 4) by Leander Kahney > >> > > [...

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Ellen In message , Ellen Rony writes: > Kent Crispin wrote: > > >Let's just take a whois look behind the scenes at that list of > >supporters: > And your point is? Kent doesn't have a point. He never does. It's a waste of time trying to reason with h

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread William X. Walsh
On 05-Feb-99 Kent Crispin wrote: > On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 09:14:43PM -0800, Ellen Rony wrote: >> Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor (February 4) by Leander Kahney >> > [...] >> More than a dozen websites have joined a Grey Ribbon Campaign to bring >> ICANN out of

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Ellen Rony
Kent Crispin wrote: >Let's just take a whois look behind the scenes at that list of >supporters: > >Open Root Server Confederation -- Richard Sexton >The Cook Report -- Gordon Cook >Domain Name Resources at VRX Network Services -- Richard Sexton >Domain Registry Resources Page -- Ron Fitzherbert

Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Kent Crispin
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 09:14:43PM -0800, Ellen Rony wrote: > Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor (February 4) by Leander Kahney > [...] > More than a dozen websites have joined a Grey Ribbon Campaign to bring > ICANN out of the shadows. The grey ribbon gif and a growing list of >

ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor

1999-02-05 Thread Ellen Rony
Re: ICANN Signs Up a Spin Doctor (February 4) by Leander Kahney It's unfortunate that ICANN, the non-profit corporation corporation charged with the administration of Internet names and addresses, felt it necessary to hire a PR agency. A fair measure of criticism against ICANN would diss