Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-22 Thread Peter Collins
On 22 May 2014 11:43, David QuayCendre wrote: > Yes the CPU is 64bits, I think it work to in Proxmox. > But VMWare don't want to work on this CPU to permit to use 64bits for VM. > > Yes if you want to limit yourself to using VMWare then you can't have 64bit guests unless you have VT enabled CPU's

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-22 Thread David QuayCendre
Yes the CPU is 64bits, I think it work to in Proxmox. But VMWare don't want to work on this CPU to permit to use 64bits for VM. 2014-05-22 10:04 GMT+02:00 Peter Collins : > > > On 22 May 2014 02:15, David QuayCendre wrote: > >> >> I have a 2850, with ESX you can't have VM in 64bits (CPU to old

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-22 Thread Peter Collins
On 22 May 2014 02:15, David QuayCendre wrote: > > I have a 2850, with ESX you can't have VM in 64bits (CPU to old and VMWare > don't work on this CPU family), but ESX is in 64bits > Depending what guests you want to run, you could look at using Xen with a pv DomU.

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-21 Thread David QuayCendre
Hello, > Are we talking fan noise? Hard drive noise? Fan noise, the 2850 (2U box) have 600mm fans with high speed, so it is very noisy. And at the boot the fans are in full speed it is very noisy ! Hard drive at 15k, are noisy to, but less than CPU. I have a 2850, with ESX you can't have VM in 6

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Pingle
On 5/20/2014 4:37 PM, Harlan Stenn wrote: > On 5/20/14 11:01 AM, Jim Pingle wrote: >> On 5/20/2014 1:45 PM, Brian Caouette wrote: >>> For the price paid it can't be beat. >> There is more than the sticker price to be considered. >> >> Note that these are just vague numbers that would vary by the sp

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Ryan Coleman
Many states, but not Minnesota, give you retail rates on putting power back on the grid… in Minnesota we get producer rates (about $.03kwh instead of $.13-16 [seasonally]). On May 20, 2014, at 15:48, Chris Bagnall wrote: > On 20 May 2014, at 21:37, Harlan Stenn wrote: >> Where are you that y

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Derek Vance
As far as architecture is concerned, AMD64 means its written 64-bit processor. Although someone with more knowledge of the inner workings may be able to tell you specific differences, it usually means it was compiled on an AMD processor, but will work on (almost) any 64-bit processor. The thing to

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Bagnall
On 20 May 2014, at 21:37, Harlan Stenn wrote: > Where are you that you get electricity for .05/kWh? Here in Oregon we > have pretty great rates, and I think we're paying .10-.12/kWh. I don't know where the OP hails from, but here in the UK (Scotland, specifically, at the moment), it's 0.16 GBP/

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Harlan Stenn
On 5/20/14 11:01 AM, Jim Pingle wrote: > On 5/20/2014 1:45 PM, Brian Caouette wrote: >> For the price paid it can't be beat. > > There is more than the sticker price to be considered. > > Note that these are just vague numbers that would vary by the specific > equipment power usage and local powe

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Thompson
If you had purchased something more modern, (even an APU, which uses 5-10% of your 2850, and is completely silent) bhyve would be an option. Which is the general direction I'm headed with pfSense for being able to run a media center or NAS on top. Refurb c1100s are < $600 on fleabay with 8 cor

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Bagnall
On 20 May 2014, at 18:45, Brian Caouette wrote: > What software is available to do virtual machines? We use KVM. Kind regards, Chris -- This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ List mailing list List@lists.pfsense.org https://lists.pfsens

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Chris L
Citrix XenServer is worth a look too. On May 20, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Same here - 4 servers around the country running it. > > > On May 20, 2014, at 12:57, Doug Lytle wrote: > What software is available to do virtual machines? >> >> I'm currently using ESXi 5.1

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Ryan Coleman
Same here - 4 servers around the country running it. On May 20, 2014, at 12:57, Doug Lytle wrote: >>> What software is >>> available to do virtual machines? > > I'm currently using ESXi 5.10 Free version. > > Doug > ___ > List mailing list > List@li

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Pingle
On 5/20/2014 1:45 PM, Brian Caouette wrote: > For the price paid it can't be beat. There is more than the sticker price to be considered. Note that these are just vague numbers that would vary by the specific equipment power usage and local power costs. Atom, ~35W, 24h/day @ $0.05/kWh = About $1

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Doug Lytle
>> What software is >> available to do virtual machines? I'm currently using ESXi 5.10 Free version. Doug ___ List mailing list List@lists.pfsense.org https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Brian Caouette
For the price paid it can't be beat. I've seen smaller systems go for much more so figured I had room to grow. At some point I maybe be able to have to virtual machines on this unit and use one for a media center or cloud backup for the home business. Are their packages available for this? I do

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Bagnall
I concur with Ryan's readings with the 2950s - we use them as KVM host machines in a datacentre environment and they average around 250W under moderate load. That's with 4x SSDs in each. Also worth mentioning that pfSense will barely use a gig of disk space; the 6x 73GB SAS units specced by the

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Rick Payton
of choice, although 4GB of ram is rather limiting in that regard. --mauirixxx From: List [mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org] On Behalf Of Brian Caouette Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:00 AM To: pfSense Support and Discussion Mailing List Subject: Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850 Are we talking

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jim Thompson
On May 20, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: > On 20/05/2014 12:28, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> On May 20, 2014, at 1:59, Giles Coochey wrote: >> >>> >>> s >>> Not to mention that if I ran a PE 2850 at home there would probably be >>> complaints about the noise!!! Those things *scream* in th

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: Brian Caouette > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:00 > > Are we talking fan noise? Hard drive noise? > > Also a comment was made about power. What are we talking? The general comments about how a PE2850 is overkill in the described home environment. > > On 5/

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Brian Caouette
Are we talking fan noise? Hard drive noise? Also a comment was made about power. What are we talking? On 5/20/2014 2:59 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: On 20/05/2014 02:12, Chris Bagnall wrote: Forgive me for saying so, but that's a massive overkill for routing a 15Mbps connection. Granted, it'd be e

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Giles Coochey
On 20/05/2014 12:28, Ryan Coleman wrote: On May 20, 2014, at 1:59, Giles Coochey wrote: s Not to mention that if I ran a PE 2850 at home there would probably be complaints about the noise!!! Those things *scream* in the audible sense!!! Typically just on the first boot - mine always stoppe

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Ryan Coleman
On May 20, 2014, at 1:59, Giles Coochey wrote: > On 20/05/2014 02:12, Chris Bagnall wrote: >> Forgive me for saying so, but that's a massive overkill for routing a 15Mbps >> connection. Granted, it'd be entirely appropriate if you were routing >> multiple gig transits in a datacentre environme

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-20 Thread Giles Coochey
On 20/05/2014 02:12, Chris Bagnall wrote: Forgive me for saying so, but that's a massive overkill for routing a 15Mbps connection. Granted, it'd be entirely appropriate if you were routing multiple gig transits in a datacentre environment where the power consumption might be justified, but in a

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Bagnall
On 20 May 2014, at 01:41, Brian Caouette wrote: > So this machine should scream for a home based network from the looks of it. > My current test machine you'll all laugh www.dlois.com/status.html is here. > (I kepted my old domain from when I was a dialup provider) VERY old machine > with limit

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Brian Caouette
So this machine should scream for a home based network from the looks of it. My current test machine you'll all laugh www.dlois.com/status.html is here. (I kepted my old domain from when I was a dialup provider) VERY old machine with limited hardware. It works well but doesn't always keep up wi

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Walter Parker
Yea, I forgot about Itanium. For Itanium the initials are IA-64. There is a Tier-2 supported version of FreeBSD for that processor, but pfSense does not ship an IA-64 version. Walter On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Itanium is the only one that’s different from AMD64. I

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Ryan Coleman
Itanium is the only one that’s different from AMD64. I’ve never touched an Itanium-driven machine. On May 19, 2014, at 18:06, Walter Parker wrote: > The amd64 is for all 64 bit machines (amd64 and Intel EMT64) > The x86 is for all 32 bit machines (Intel and AMD) > > According the spec sheet,

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Walter Parker
The amd64 is for all 64 bit machines (amd64 and Intel EMT64) The x86 is for all 32 bit machines (Intel and AMD) According the spec sheet, http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2850_specs.pdf, that is a 64 bit machine. Note, because AMD developed 64 for the x86 first, the BSDs cal

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Brian Caouette
I think he told me it was a 64bit but wasn't sure of the Intel vs Amd. On 5/19/2014 6:38 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: Check the model of the Xeon processor but I believe its 64bit. Once you check the model if it's a 64 use the AMD version otherwise if you can't find out go with the intel. -- Ryan

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Ryan Coleman
Check the model of the Xeon processor but I believe its 64bit. Once you check the model if it's a 64 use the AMD version otherwise if you can't find out go with the intel. -- Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com m. 651.373.5015 o. 612.568.2749 > On May 19, 2014, at 17:37, Brian Caouette wrote: > >

Re: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread James Caldwell
Amd64 is the 64 bit version that you would want to use on that proc. I386 is 32 bit. James -Original Message- From: List [mailto:list-boun...@lists.pfsense.org] On Behalf Of Brian Caouette Sent: May-19-14 4:37 PM To: pfSense support and discussion Subject: [pfSense] Poweredge 2850

[pfSense] Poweredge 2850

2014-05-19 Thread Brian Caouette
Just ordered a Poweredge 2850. It has the xeno processor. Do I install the Intell version or amd64? ___ List mailing list List@lists.pfsense.org https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo/list