[WSG] styling the optgroup

2006-10-20 Thread Designer
Am I correct in thinking that styling the optgroup (and label) with CSS simply doesn't work? I am trying to get some vertical space around the label element, but so far my expts have produced no effect whatsoever. I've googled this, but only found a 2004 ref which seems a bit bleak. As it's

Re: [WSG] styling the optgroup

2006-10-20 Thread Mihael Zadravec
Try this link:http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/form.htmlOn 10/20/06, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Am I correct in thinking that styling the optgroup (and label) with CSS simply doesn't work?I am trying to get some vertical space around the label element, but sofar my expts have produced no

[WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Charles Roper
Hi, Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. I've searched and searched but can't find a definitive list. Many thanks, Charles *** List

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread David Dorward
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 12:41:02PM +0100, Charles Roper wrote: Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. I've searched and searched but can't find a definitive list. It's a CDATA list, you can use any character

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 12:41:02, Charles Roper wrote: Hi, Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. I've searched and searched but can't find a definitive list. When in doubt, read the spec ;-) HTML 4.01 defines

Re: [WSG] Combined rounded and squared corner tabs

2006-10-20 Thread Clint Ecker
The niftycube method claims to be able to do rounded tabs: http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.html See example 4: http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/nifty4.html You and mix and match curved and uncurved, I'm sure. Clint On 10/19/06, TomGou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Anders Nawroth
Charles Roper skrev: Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. Be aware that there are different rules for class names in CSS vs. HTML! http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#q6 In CSS 2.1, identifiers

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 13:42:51, Anders Nawroth wrote: Charles Roper skrev: Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. Be aware that there are different rules for class names in CSS vs. HTML!

[WSG] Is my DOM-script best practice?

2006-10-20 Thread Keryx webb
Hello all! On the page http://keryx.se/dev/brCh/browserval.xhtml I have a DOM-scripting demo. (For reasons I'll explain below you can't use MSIE to view the page.) The page per se is not meant to be accessible or good design, but the script is supposed to be an example of best practice

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Charles Roper
Thanks all - what a great response. I did end up reading the CSS 2.1 spec but as has been pointed out, a CSS selector does not necessarily equal an HTML class name. Here's a bit of background: I need to include the following in a class name (for use in a microformat):

RE: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

2006-10-20 Thread Ted Drake
I don't get the paranoia. IE7 is much more secure than IE6. If you don't like IE7, you can simply uninstall it and ie6 is restored after a reboot. As a web dev, you need to install IE7 and test your sites. Ignoring it isn't going to help your web development. Ted -Original Message-

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread David Dorward
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 04:45:49PM +0100, Charles Roper wrote: From what I gleaned from the CSS spec, I escaped it to this: class=urn\:lsid\:ubio\.org\:namebank\:530114 Is that now valid (in terms of CSS) as far as anyone can see? You need to escape the characters in the _CSS_, not in the

Re: [WSG] Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I have two Unordered Lists: - one contains text in A elements (a href=#Text/a) - one contains image in A elements (a href=#img //a) CSS: li {display:inline} How come the display of the two is *different* (regarding orientation) when I use RTL with the DIR attribute?

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Charles Roper wrote: I need to include the following in a class name (for use in a microformat): class=urn:lsid:ubio.org:namebank:530114 Which microformat? That's a URI and so a more semantic place for it is in a href=urn:... or maybe link href=urn:. From what I gleaned from the CSS

Re: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

2006-10-20 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Ted Drake wrote: I don't get the paranoia. IE7 is much more secure than IE6. If you don't like IE7, you can simply uninstall it and ie6 is restored after a reboot. As a web dev, you need to install IE7 and test your sites. Ignoring it isn't going to help your web development. Ted Paranoia? I

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Charles Roper
On 20/10/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Roper wrote: I need to include the following in a class name (for use in a microformat): class=urn:lsid:ubio.org:namebank:530114 Which microformat? That's a URI and so a more semantic place for it is in a href=urn:... or maybe link

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 15:26:10, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 20 Oct 2006, at 13:42:51, Anders Nawroth wrote: Be aware that there are different rules for class names in CSS vs. HTML! http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#q6 Good point, Anders; Charles, please note this as a

Re: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 17:26:35, Rahul Gonsalves wrote: Ted Drake wrote: I don't get the paranoia. IE7 is much more secure than IE6. If you don't like IE7, you can simply uninstall it and ie6 is restored after a reboot. As a web dev, you need to install IE7 and test your sites. Ignoring it

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 18:34:44, Charles Roper wrote: OK, so urn:lsid:ubio.org:namebank:530114 would actually be a valid class name then? The LSID would almost certainly never be used as a CSS selector (should never rule the possibility out, though), so if it's valid in its unescaped form then

Re: [WSG] Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: I have two Unordered Lists: - one contains text in A elements (a href=#Text/a) - one contains image in A elements (a href=#img //a) CSS: li {display:inline} How come the display of the two is *different* (regarding orientation) when I use RTL

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Charles Roper wrote: On 20/10/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Roper wrote: I need to include the following in a class name (for use in a microformat): class=urn:lsid:ubio.org:namebank:530114 Which microformat? That's a URI and so a more semantic place for it is in a

Re: [WSG] Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I just found the issue and put something together: http://www.tjkdesign.com/test/whitespace_and_rtl_direction.asp Just an observation: whitespace doesn't matter in Opera 9 (from prev1 onwards). So, whitespace may be important to browsers when dealing with such cases,

Re: [WSG] Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: I just found the issue and put something together: http://www.tjkdesign.com/test/whitespace_and_rtl_direction.asp Just an observation: whitespace doesn't matter in Opera 9 (from prev1 onwards). So, whitespace may be important to browsers when

RE: [WSG] IE Issue: focus not set on image buttons within a floated div

2006-10-20 Thread Richard Ishida
I don't know if it's actually related or not, but we had to change our pages to work on IE7. See for example http://www.w3.org/International/articles/language-tags/ The stuff floated to the right (ie. that column) was only partially visible and you couldn't click inside the search field or on

Re: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

2006-10-20 Thread John Faulds
I agree, though, that a virtual machine is the way to go for those who need multiple installs, especially given that Virtual PC for Windows is now a free download. Does using Microsoft's Virtual PC make any difference as to the legality of running the same copy of Windows on different

Re: [WSG] IE-png transparency hack for background images

2006-10-20 Thread Michael Cordover
Hi Everyone, So I've been having troulbe with IE-PNG relations - not entirely surprising. Doing a search through my WSG archives I found the email to which this responds. The trouble is, it's not working. In fact, it's giving an identical result to no correction. Then again, so does trying