Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amount ofwater in crankcase

2010-12-03 Thread Lee Haefele
On these motors, if the seawater pump bearings and seals fail, if fills the crankcase with seawater. You will need to change the oil 3-4 times, starting the motor each time. It helps to do a rinse with Diesel once, but not to run the motor that time. I had this happen and ran the motor another

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant water in crankcase

2010-12-03 Thread S/V Kaleo
Thank you for the replys and advice. I realize I should have given more details in my email last night. I discovered the water after the engine had been shutdown for about 4 hours (it had ran fine all day) and after I pumped the oil out this morning it was still quite black i.e. Not grey or mi

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amount of water in c...

2010-12-03 Thread GypsyE37
Hi, Leaking raw water pump is a fairly consistent reference, and if it is so equipped an engine oil cooler. Your raw water pump feeds, as you said salt water, and your closed system was intact per your description. Personally I'd get it to a dock where I would do any work. If you were taking

[Liveaboard] Apollo Ball Valves

2010-12-03 Thread banders...@earthlink.net
Ahoy Bill, I suggest you send a copy of your recent message to the list too. I have used Apollo ball valves for years but I have on issue with them. In the standard valve that can be found in West and hardware stores, the body is bronze, the ball is chromed bronze, but the stem and the packin

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2010-12-03 Thread Philip R. McGovern
Matt: Good logic. I'd start replacing the seals while the towboat gets unstuck. It sounds like you dodged a bullet. Phil s/v Sunshine ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://li

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amount ofwater in crankcase

2010-12-03 Thread banders...@earthlink.net
He is in salt water. Remember he was originally getting white smoke from the exhaust, which might indicate a head gasket failure between cooling water and a combustion chamber. Also, I must add, because he might not know, the raw water pump has two seals, one next to the pump chamber, usually

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant water incrankcase

2010-12-03 Thread banders...@earthlink.net
Further Thoughts. If your raw water pump is as Lee says you might want to consider drilling some drain holes in the body of the pump between the water and the oil seals to prevent water entering the engine. Sometimes designers have a brain fart. I often refer to it as "80% engineering". I supp

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amount ofwater in c...

2010-12-03 Thread banders...@earthlink.net
Personally, I do all my engine repairs at anchor and spend the dock rent money on spare parts and tools. >From my own experience, changing or overhauling a raw water pump does not >require much work, certainly not a dock, if I have the parts and tools on >hand. I have always anchored out an

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amount ofwater in c...

2010-12-03 Thread Ed Kelly
Of course Norm has good advice and also experience and tools aboard. I am often too conservative and follow the rule that is the first rule of the Hippocratic Oath Dr's used to follow: FIRST, DO NO HARM. I do not want my motto to be READY, FIRE, AIM. I have never had the problem but did not thin

Re: [Liveaboard] LABRADOR RETRIEVER LOST ON THE ALBEMARLE - OUTCOME

2010-12-03 Thread Corinne Sutter-Brown
We are so glad to hear this. Thanks for letting everyone know. I wonder how Lucky will like sailing. Corinne & Rosie On Dec 2, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Ron Rogers wrote: > A good holiday outcome to an otherwise sad story. Sadly, Bucky was found dead > by a Ranger on the shore of Roanoke Island - 2

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amount of water in crankcase

2010-12-03 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 02:41:57AM -0500, Ed Kelly wrote: > Matt, > > With all due respect, I think this is one of those times a haul by > Towboat US may save some money, and in the worst case, an engine. > > This is a job I would like to do at a dock, rather than away from one, > and with the co

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant water in crankcase

2010-12-03 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 09:22:36AM -0600, S/V Kaleo wrote: > Thank you for the replys and advice. I realize I should have given > more details in my email last night. > > I discovered the water after the engine had been shutdown for about 4 > hours (it had ran fine all day) and after I pumped the

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amount ofwater in c...

2010-12-03 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 12:13:06PM -0500, Ed Kelly wrote: > Of course Norm has good advice and also experience and tools aboard. > > I am often too conservative and follow the rule that is the first rule of > the Hippocratic Oath Dr's used to follow: > FIRST, DO NO HARM. If we were talking about

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant amount ofwater in c...

2010-12-03 Thread GypsyE37
Norm, As I said "personally". Do you know how much experience that party has had. Carl. BTW are you down at Judington already?___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardo

Re: [Liveaboard] Westerbeke Engine Trouble | Significant water in crankcase

2010-12-03 Thread jim sims
I pretty well agree with all the other great advice you've gotten, but one item does prick my ears - >The only place raw water touches the engine are the heat exchanger (which is >brand new) Any time you have a *new* part taht *could* be related to a failure, it's worth a second glance to check