Re: [LMMS-devel] Missing LADSPA GUI meters

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Can we file an issue on this please. On Saturday 18 January 2014 23:39:34 Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > If I use the plugin SC4 in Ardour, beside some control sliders I have a few > meters that show me for example momenral input signal level and gain > reduction. Thus is very helpful. > However in LMMS t

Re: [LMMS-devel] Peak controller gfx

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I would put a mouse over with the full name so if you mouse over abs value it shows absolute value. Do we honestly expect everyone to remember the abbreviations? On Sunday 19 January 2014 03:54:34 Vesa wrote: > On 01/19/2014 02:32 AM, Johannes Lorenz wrote: > >>> What does "Abs value" mean? > >>

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS development vlog

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Dont know about the current SF website, but if we code something from scratch we can embed them on the site very easily with html5 :D On Sunday 19 January 2014 08:41:17 Gurjot Singh wrote: > On 19 January 2014 04:16, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > > I think we could make an official YouTube channel fo

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS development vlog

2014-01-18 Thread Gurjot Singh
On 19 January 2014 04:16, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > I think we could make an official YouTube channel for LMMS (unless it > already exists) to share the great news about LMMS development using a vlog. > If done regularly it could attract a lot of users and make them more aware > what is up. > What ar

Re: [LMMS-devel] Peak controller gfx

2014-01-18 Thread Vesa
On 01/19/2014 02:32 AM, Johannes Lorenz wrote: >>> What does "Abs value" mean? >> That is short for the mathematical term absolute value. > Okay, I think if you decide to put the checkboxes on top of each other, you > could write that out. Also, I am not sure if the wheels names should all have >

Re: [LMMS-devel] Peak controller gfx

2014-01-18 Thread Johannes Lorenz
> > What does "Abs value" mean? > > That is short for the mathematical term absolute value. Okay, I think if you decide to put the checkboxes on top of each other, you could write that out. Also, I am not sure if the wheels names should all have four letters? This would look more unique. What do

Re: [LMMS-devel] Continuous Integration with Travis CI

2014-01-18 Thread Lukas W.
I think that should be also possible with Travis as it's completely scriptable. It may even be possible to automatically deploy builds, but I'll have to investigate this further. Am 19.01.2014 01:07 schrieb "Jonathan Aquilina" : > One perk though of having our own hosted build bots and other self

Re: [LMMS-devel] Request to code agains Feature Request #144.

2014-01-18 Thread Johannes Lorenz
> FYI, I had to revert the commit for the time being first of all, sorry for the confusion, I did not notice any bug when I tested it. I'll try to find out on Monday and make more tests. @Toby: For the loop speedup: I can do this, ofc. IIRC someone asked why using a multiplicator instead of just

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS development vlog

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Agreed, also can use it for tutorials about particular features, new incoming features etc. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > I think we could make an official YouTube channel for LMMS (unless it > already exists) to share the great news about LMMS development using a > v

Re: [LMMS-devel] Continuous Integration with Travis CI

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
One perk though of having our own hosted build bots and other self hosted stuff is that we can then have for instance the build bots send out emails to those committers who submitted something which was merged and say hey what you did broke the build can you please revisit and fix it. On Sun, Jan

Re: [LMMS-devel] Continuous Integration with Travis CI

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I could Lukas but again its up to @TOBY or @PGIB On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Lukas W. wrote: > I'd love to do it. But as soon as I understood id, this requires me to > have admin rights on the repository. > So if that's ok for you (cause I would completely understand if it's > not), could

Re: [LMMS-devel] [Lmms-users] Github issue tracker

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I think this workflow works well. On 15 Jan 2014 22:17, "Paul Giblock" wrote: > Agreed, I'd rather discussion stay on the mailing lists. If someone has a > bug: sure, report it straight to the tracker. But, regarding developer > discussion, issues shouldn't be created until the discussion has le

Re: [LMMS-devel] Continuous Integration with Travis CI

2014-01-18 Thread Lukas W.
I'd love to do it. But as soon as I understood id, this requires me to have admin rights on the repository. So if that's ok for you (cause I would completely understand if it's not), could someone who is an admin grant me those rights on GitHub? 2014/1/19 Jonathan Aquilina : > Lukas go ahead and d

Re: [LMMS-devel] Continuous Integration with Travis CI

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Lukas go ahead and do it. It is better to have continuous integration seeing as we have no unit tests in place to catch any problems early. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > I would really love it, as I'd be able to test the new features > immediately without compiling LM

[LMMS-devel] Pattern clips shorter than one bar / resize instrument clips

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
With right edge drag + Ctrl it is possible to have a single pattern track clip 1.5 or 8 bars long. But one can't shrink the clip making it shorter than one bar (muting a few last notes of the pattern), which is strange and makes the life of a beatmaker a bit harder. Another thing is that the funct

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I see. But the basic functions of a Lv2 synth would work? Per-note bends/pitch - I wish ZynAddSubFX could do it too... On 19 Jan 2014 00:26, "Vesa" wrote: > On 01/19/2014 01:05 AM, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > > > > Does this mean that we could... say... use TripleOscilator with Ardour? > > > > Ardour

Re: [LMMS-devel] Next releases

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
This makes me want to hurry up with the knobs ;) I never knew, how and why software is versioned in a way it is. I guessed one must have a roadmap that shows what the program needs to reach to become version 1.0, 1.5 etc. Does LMMS have one? This new versioning could be explained in a video... I

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Vesa
On 01/19/2014 01:05 AM, Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > > Does this mean that we could... say... use TripleOscilator with Ardour? > Ardour uses MIDI for all instruments, so you couldn't do things that tripleosc currently supports, like per-note pitch bends, per-note panning... ---

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
Does this mean that we could... say... use TripleOscilator with Ardour? On 18 Jan 2014 16:27, "Tobias Doerffel" wrote: > Sure we can but I'm thinking about Paul's proposal to convert all our > existing plugins to LV2. > > > > > -

[LMMS-devel] LMMS development vlog

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I think we could make an official YouTube channel for LMMS (unless it already exists) to share the great news about LMMS development using a vlog. If done regularly it could attract a lot of users and make them more aware what is up. What are your thoughts? -

Re: [LMMS-devel] Continuous Integration with Travis CI

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I would really love it, as I'd be able to test the new features immediately without compiling LMMS on my own. On 18 Jan 2014 23:16, "Lukas W." wrote: > As I mentioned in the "Nightbuilds" thread, I would like to suggest > using a continuous integration service such as > https://www.travis-ci.org.

[LMMS-devel] Missing LADSPA GUI meters

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
If I use the plugin SC4 in Ardour, beside some control sliders I have a few meters that show me for example momenral input signal level and gain reduction. Thus is very helpful. However in LMMS this feedback information provided by plugins is ignored and not exposed to the user. Can we fix that? --

[LMMS-devel] Continuous Integration with Travis CI

2014-01-18 Thread Lukas W.
As I mentioned in the "Nightbuilds" thread, I would like to suggest using a continuous integration service such as https://www.travis-ci.org. Their service is free for open source projects and is particularly made to integrate with GitHub. Using it, no own hardware is required. A build gets trigge

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I guess it would be better to make it a separate window accesible from the Help menu. On 18 Jan 2014 04:42, "Israel" wrote: > Instead of Tip of the Day, how about the background be made to have ALL > (or most) of the keyboard shortcuts. The user could keep the background > with all the handy in

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS Nightbuilds?

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
Also something like a changed window title or a watermarked background could be used to denote the automatically built versions. Or a changed splash window graphic saying: "This is not a stable LMMS release, but a nightbuild. Some features might be broken.". Anyway - would anyone who intentionally

Re: [LMMS-devel] Effects with multiple inputs/outputs

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
Fabulous! On 18 Jan 2014 19:14, "Tobias Doerffel" wrote: > 2014/1/17 Tobiasz Karoń > >> I mean duplicating a stereo signal so it can be fed to more than one >> mixer channels simultaneously. >> > > So that's what we have in the new FX mixer :-) > > ---

Re: [LMMS-devel] I found another lmms hosted on GitHub...

2014-01-18 Thread Israel
It was forked from sourceforge. The migration to GitHub is very recent. The most recent commit was 4 months ago. Toby already looked at it and said it didn't have anything to add to the current development. On 01/18/2014 11:22 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: You sure its not just a fork of the

Re: [LMMS-devel] Effects with multiple inputs/outputs

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
2014/1/17 Tobiasz Karoń > I mean duplicating a stereo signal so it can be fed to more than one mixer > channels simultaneously. > So that's what we have in the new FX mixer :-) -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterpr

Re: [LMMS-devel] I found another lmms hosted on GitHub...

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
You sure its not just a fork of the main repo? I wonder how one could tell if its not a fork. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Israel wrote: > https://github.com/ranft/lmms > This might have some improvements worth looking at... > Just something I came across.. > > -- > Regards > > > >

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Hannu Haahti
LV2 can probably be made to support that by writing an extension -- if one doesn't exist already. 2014/1/18 Vesa > On 01/18/2014 05:26 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > > Sure we can but I'm thinking about Paul's proposal to convert all our > > existing plugins to LV2. > > Hmm. Would it break any ex

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Vesa
On 01/18/2014 05:26 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Sure we can but I'm thinking about Paul's proposal to convert all our > existing plugins to LV2. Hmm. Would it break any existing functionality? Does LV2 support eg. per-note pitch bends? I know MIDI doesn't support those, and if LV2 is (like VST) b

Re: [LMMS-devel] Request to code agains Feature Request #144.

2014-01-18 Thread Vesa
On 01/18/2014 05:16 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Hi, > > next time please just merge the stable-0.4 branch because if doing > lots of changes manually in different branches it can become > complicated when merging back to stable-0.4 later (Git possibly can't > recognize common commits) > > Toby Ye

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Sure we can but I'm thinking about Paul's proposal to convert all our existing plugins to LV2. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Crit

Re: [LMMS-devel] Request to code agains Feature Request #144.

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, next time please just merge the stable-0.4 branch because if doing lots of changes manually in different branches it can become complicated when merging back to stable-0.4 later (Git possibly can't recognize common commits) Toby

Re: [LMMS-devel] [Feature] Solo Buttons to FX Channels

2014-01-18 Thread giakk...@hotmail.it
Done. I didn't do it before because this bug had already been reported on the old bug tracker: https://sourceforge.net/p/lmms/bugs/520/ Il 18/01/2014 15:49, Gurjot Singh ha scritto: > On 18 January 2014 20:13, giakk...@hotmail.it wrote: >> The tracks behavior is good enough, so I'd love it on F

Re: [LMMS-devel] [Feature] Solo Buttons to FX Channels

2014-01-18 Thread Gurjot Singh
On 18 January 2014 20:13, giakk...@hotmail.it wrote: > The tracks behavior is good enough, so I'd love it on FX channels too! > > The only issue with them is this: > - Open a project with multiple tracks > - "solo" one of them > - save the project > - restart lmms > - open the project > You get th

Re: [LMMS-devel] [Feature] Solo Buttons to FX Channels

2014-01-18 Thread giakk...@hotmail.it
The tracks behavior is good enough, so I'd love it on FX channels too! The only issue with them is this: - Open a project with multiple tracks - "solo" one of them - save the project - restart lmms - open the project You get the soloed track with the green led only, so to un-mute all the other tra

Re: [LMMS-devel] Request to code agains Feature Request #144.

2014-01-18 Thread Vesa
On 01/18/2014 03:20 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Hi Johannes, > > FYI, I had to revert the commit for the time being - reasons explained > here: I also reverted it in the UI branch to keep things from getting messy. -- Ce

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Vesa
On 01/18/2014 01:44 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Hi Paul, > > just had the time to read your docs regarding Unison design and I > really like it. As an abstract description it's very similiar to how > LMMS is supposed to work in the future (especially the resources > section). I don't know whether

[LMMS-devel] [Feature] Solo Buttons to FX Channels

2014-01-18 Thread Gurjot Singh
Hi, I'm currently working on adding the feature of Solo buttons to the FXMixer Channels. I'd like to ask you all how this should be implemented? Do we want it to behave just like tracks? In the case of tracks, when we solo one track all other tracks are muted. Or do we want it behave independent

Re: [LMMS-devel] Next releases

2014-01-18 Thread Israel
Maybe the major releases could have a 'code name' say version 14.0.0 could be "Blaster Boombox" or whatever and version 15.0.0 could be "Clever Cacophony" all the 14.X.X would simply retain the 'code name' until version 15. This might make it simpler for users to identify what base version they a

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS Nightbuilds?

2014-01-18 Thread Raine M. Ekman
Quoting Tobiasz Karon : > I wonder if we could have the latest code from Git built automatically > every day (night). > > I can't even count today's pulled branches. > > I don't know much about such routines, so don't hesitate to tell me if I'm > entirely wrong about this. In the name of user-fri

Re: [LMMS-devel] Request to code agains Feature Request #144.

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Addition: a good test case is the demo song at data/projects/Demos/Shovon-ProgressiveHousePluckDemo.mmpz Render it to WAV files with and without patch and take a look at the differences in Audacity. In the end, there shouldn't be any differences :-) Toby -

Re: [LMMS-devel] I found another lmms hosted on GitHub...

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
This is an external upload made several months ago and from what I can see it only includes the note labels feature which has been merged already. Anyways thanks for the hint! Toby -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enter

Re: [LMMS-devel] Next releases

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
IMHO this would make people overestimate the meaning of individual releases (and also increases effort for each release a bit) because if we're going to followthe "release early, release often" principle in the future we will be through very quickly. Release names are fine for distributions/operati

[LMMS-devel] I found another lmms hosted on GitHub...

2014-01-18 Thread Israel
https://github.com/ranft/lmms This might have some improvements worth looking at... Just something I came across.. -- Regards -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are

Re: [LMMS-devel] Request to code agains Feature Request #144.

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, one more note on the part where values are summed up. For better performance and better code readability please make two loop variants: one if absolute values are activated and one the way it always has been. Toby --

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS Nightbuilds?

2014-01-18 Thread Israel
I could setup something to build automatically on launchpad, but I will have to look into how to pull code from GitHub every night. You can create a recipe from a branch, and simply set it to auto build and it will automatically build it for all the architectures. I have never built anything

Re: [LMMS-devel] Request to code agains Feature Request #144.

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi Johannes, FYI, I had to revert the commit for the time being - reasons explained here: https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/commit/9cb52ccf0d84b31945b86cbf419db854c0d91204 can you please take a look at it so maybe we get things fixed until the next release? Thanks! :-) Toby

Re: [LMMS-devel] Next releases

2014-01-18 Thread Chrissy McManus
Hi Toby, how about using a "nickname" scheme similar to Ubuntu... for example "2.10 Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope)2.11 Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala)2.12 Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx)2.13 Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat)2.14 Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)2.15 Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) where the rel

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, 2014/1/16 Tres Finocchiaro > Coming from the windows side of composition, the VST performance on > playback is something that suffers currently. > Has this been an issue since a specific version? Generally the current approach (launching the VST plugin in a separate process) is very portab

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi Paul, just had the time to read your docs regarding Unison design and I really like it. As an abstract description it's very similiar to how LMMS is supposed to work in the future (especially the resources section). I don't know whether to agree or disagree about the migration to LV2 as I don't

Re: [LMMS-devel] Next releases

2014-01-18 Thread Vesa
On 01/18/2014 01:24 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to plan the next releases and also propose to change the > versioning scheme: > > YY.QQ.RR > > YY=year > QQ=quarter (start counting at 0) > RR=release (start counting at 0) I like the idea otherwise, except that I despise the bloate

Re: [LMMS-devel] Next releases

2014-01-18 Thread Gurjot Singh
On 18 January 2014 16:54, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to plan the next releases and also propose to change the versioning > scheme: > > YY.QQ.RR > > YY=year > QQ=quarter (start counting at 0) > RR=release (start counting at 0) > > so if we manage to push out a release in January (whi

[LMMS-devel] Next releases

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, I'd like to plan the next releases and also propose to change the versioning scheme: YY.QQ.RR YY=year QQ=quarter (start counting at 0) RR=release (start counting at 0) so if we manage to push out a release in January (which is my goal) it would be 14.0.0. I know this would be a confusing ju

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS Nightbuilds?

2014-01-18 Thread Lukas W.
The point is that with a service like the two I have mentioned, we don't need our own hardware. It completely runs on their servers. And with the latter, pull requests on GitHub are tested automatically *before* they get merged into the official repo. 2014/1/18 Jonathan Aquilina : > Lukas I have a

Re: [LMMS-devel] Real Time safety

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
vesa I think the migration to unison should be started on. It is going to take a lot of work for Paul to migrate it so we will have time to work on new releases while he works on the migration to the new core. On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Vesa wrote: > On 01/16/2014 09:22 AM, Johannes Loren

Re: [LMMS-devel] Advertising LMMS: press releases?

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Seeing as you have a road map in mind. can you fill n that page on the github dev wiki please. Currently that is blank and I think it would be great to have filled up with the release cycle etc. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > I fully agree. We should wait at least for

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS Nightbuilds?

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Lukas I have a solution on continuous integration testing but again requires our own hardware. Libreoffice use build bots http://trac.buildbot.net so as soon as anything changes in the repo it then pulls the changes and initiates a compile. If people are willing to run these bots for now on their

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS Nightbuilds?

2014-01-18 Thread Lukas W.
Just an idea I'd like to throw in: Apart from nightly builds, we could also use a continuous integration service to automatically test new code and see if it builds. For example, those two offer this service for free for open source projects: https://travis-ci.org/ https://drone.io/ E.g. the tagli

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS Nightbuilds?

2014-01-18 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Reason I suggested our own hardware is i know what libreoffice use and it would require some dedicated hardware. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > I don't think that we need a dedicated server for it. Launchpad offers all > we need (and even windows builds could be built

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS Nightbuilds?

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
I don't think that we need a dedicated server for it. Launchpad offers all we need (and even windows builds could be built there via cross compiling (the way we build it for normal releases too)) - just need an automatism to trigger the update-and-build process. Does anyone have experience on this?

Re: [LMMS-devel] Development Ideas, Project Management, NGO Support and More

2014-01-18 Thread Tobias Doerffel
2014/1/16 Jonathan Aquilina > Sirmacik we would love to take advantage of your hosting offer, but I have > a question what kind of guarantee can you give in terms of uptime? The main > fear of project owner is that of down time. > Not about down time (even though that is important as well) but l