Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-15 Thread Israel
@Vesa Well said! LMMS is something we all hold very dear, and have poured many hours of time into. Many (ALL?) of us have spent countless hours making incredible music that can't be made with any of the other tools we tried. Many of us have spent countless hours digging into the actual progra

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-15 Thread Israel
I know you don't seem to like Jack, but Guitarix/Jack/Ardour (or Audcaity) is incredible for recording Guitar tracks. p.s. I really liked your run down of why LMMS is so amazing. On 01/14/2014 10:40 AM, Rob Kudla wrote: > On 01/14/2014 05:45 AM, Dan MacDonald wrote: >> seems most people on this

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
Dan, saying things that sound to us like "switch to qtractor" in this list sounds at least not too polite. However, I got your message, so I might try looking at qtractor some time later, but now I'm focused on LMMS and dedicated to improve it, so spending time on any other piece of software that d

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I've spent *years* now *studying* *ZynAddSubFX*, so I know it pretty well. Looking at TAL Noizemaker quickly makes me want to say that you can't even compare these synths - however I might be greatly wrong. TAL's capabilities look to me more like Synth1 VST. Zyn is capable of making extremely compl

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Vesa
On 01/14/2014 07:46 PM, Dan MacDonald wrote: > > qtractor is free and open source software - I'm not selling anything. Regardless, talking about Qtractor is wildly off topic on an LMMS-devel mailing list. I know your intentions are probably good, but this is the wrong place for this discussion, an

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Dan MacDonald
Hi Rob! There is absolutely no need to wipe your computer and install a new distro to get JACK running - its just easier for Linux noobs to start off with a distro designed and optimized for audio production / JACK etc. Thats why I mentioned it. JACK is easily installed via most distros repos with

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Rob Kudla
On 01/14/2014 12:13 PM, Dan MacDonald wrote: > Distros like KXStudio and AVLinux remove most > of the pain of getting JACK configured, should that be an issue. "Just wipe your computer and use a different distro so that you'll like my pet program more!" Yeah, I'll get right on that. > aware that

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Dan MacDonald
Yes, you can use Zyn from within qtractor either as an LV2 plugin or connect it externally via a session manager like NSM. I'd recommend the former. Have you ever tried TAL Noizemaker? I think its much better than Zyn, certainly UI wise there's no competition IMO! On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Dan MacDonald
Hi Rob! Aha! The eternal 'I don't like JACK' argument arises yet again! This is the most common complaint raised against Linux audio. The truth of the matter for most is that JACK is very useful to have around once you've got your head round it and most learn to love it pretty quickly - its very

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Dan MacDonald
Hi Tobiasz! qtractor has one of the best PDF manuals of any FLOSS program - I'd highly recommend you refer to that if you have problems working it out. Its linked on qtr's homepage. There are also a number of instructional vids on YouTube if that works better for you. Dan On Tue, Jan 14, 2014

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
Thanks! However I'll probably be more focused on improving LMMS though ;) Is qtractor able to use ZynAddSubFX? 2014/1/14 Dan MacDonald > Hi Tobiasz! > > qtractor has one of the best PDF manuals of any FLOSS program - I'd highly > recommend you refer to that if you have problems working it out.

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Rob Kudla
On 01/14/2014 05:45 AM, Dan MacDonald wrote: > seems most people on this list are Linux users so I don't understand why > they aren't already using qtractor, presuming they're aware of it? 1. I can build entire songs in LMMS project files, which I can then email to other people or backup safely wi

Re: [LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I've tried qtractor once years ago, but I couldn't easily figure out what does what - LMMS was much more intuitive and easy to learn for me (as a former Fruity Loops user). 2014/1/14 Dan MacDonald > Hi list! > > First, I want to say that I'm happy to see the renewed interest in LMMS' > developm

[LMMS-devel] LMMS vs qtractor

2014-01-14 Thread Dan MacDonald
Hi list! First, I want to say that I'm happy to see the renewed interest in LMMS' development, I wish it the best and I look forward to seeing it improve. However, after reading many of the recent posts on this list I get the distinct impression that many people on this list either don't know abou