Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-18 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
I guess it would be better to make it a separate window accesible from the Help menu. On 18 Jan 2014 04:42, "Israel" wrote: > Instead of Tip of the Day, how about the background be made to have ALL > (or most) of the keyboard shortcuts. The user could keep the background > with all the handy in

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Israel
Instead of Tip of the Day, how about the background be made to have ALL (or most) of the keyboard shortcuts. The user could keep the background with all the handy info, or change it. On 01/17/2014 07:10 PM, Tobiasz Karon' wrote: Ok I see this is true indeed. I sometimes read the Tips, but ra

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
So it's a dedicated space to display context help messages? Sounds and looks good. On 18 Jan 2014 02:23, "Tres Finocchiaro" wrote: > The stuff on Facebook had been fantastic and has had great review. People > go to Facebook to read stuff, so it's a proper channel and kudos to the > ones posting

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
The stuff on Facebook had been fantastic and has had great review. People go to Facebook to read stuff, so it's a proper channel and kudos to the ones posting those (Stian or Josh I think), top notch. The help area -- if done like Ableton -- is big enough for some bold shortcuts and a brief descr

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
Ok I see this is true indeed. I sometimes read the Tips, but rarely and they hardly ever seem to be worth the time. I think it could be different if they appeared rarely and only after say 50 program runs to show something really useful that was proven the user don't do. However it is still the pro

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I marked the issue in the tracker as invalid and closed it seeing as there is alot of negative feedback against something like this. On Friday 17 January 2014 14:36:14 Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > I still strongly advise against it. Photoshop doesn't do this. Pidgin > doesn't do this. VirtualBox

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Lukas W.
I completely agree with Tres. I personally hate those "Tip of the day" popups and click them away immediately without reading anything. For me they're just annoying. I have never seen a tip that really made say "ah, good to know". The only thing they do well is interrupting the user. Lukas 2014/1

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@Jonathan, I don't mind adding my thoughts, but I don't think it's relevant to statistical data. Keep stats, drop this interrupting dialog. I don't think it should even be mentioned. Just another dialog to dismiss every-single-time I install. -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 1

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
I still strongly advise against it. Photoshop doesn't do this. Pidgin doesn't do this. VirtualBox doesn't do this. This is reminiscent of a 90s computing culture that people don't want. My son is 3 yrs old and he instinctively closes pop-ups that interrupt what he's doing. I've opened the sof

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
Can't this be solved by adding a "[ ] Don't show these tips at startup" option in the Tip dialog window? 2014/1/17 Tres Finocchiaro > There is a help area in the bottom left of Ableton which is absolutely > crucial to it's success as a DAW. Tips of the day are intrusive and remind > me of poor

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
That was what I was referring to. On Friday 17 January 2014 16:37:16 Tobiasz Karoń wrote: > Can't this be solved by adding a "[ ] Don't show these tips at startup" > option in the Tip dialog window? > > > 2014/1/17 Tres Finocchiaro > > > There is a help area in the bottom left of Ableton which

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Can you mention this in the issue filed in the tracker. With your suggestion on how to improve that and if need be migrate away from it. On Friday 17 January 2014 09:53:20 Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > There is a help area in the bottom left of Ableton which is absolutely > crucial to it's success as

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
There is a help area in the bottom left of Ableton which is absolutely crucial to it's success as a DAW. Tips of the day are intrusive and remind me of poorly developed applications from the 90s. I vote a strong no to this and would prefer a hover-over help description area, with shortcut explana

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
Done. 2014/1/17 Jonathan Aquilina > I think that this can still be applied right now with out the data. > > We could provide some really basic tips like shortcuts etc. It is a very > good > idea. We need to make sure that the user though with these popups can have > them not be displayed at sta

Re: [LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I think that this can still be applied right now with out the data. We could provide some really basic tips like shortcuts etc. It is a very good idea. We need to make sure that the user though with these popups can have them not be displayed at startup if the so desire. Can you file a enhancem

[LMMS-devel] Tip of The Day feature

2014-01-17 Thread Tobiasz Karoń
As I mentioned in "Collecting anonymous statistical data" thread, seeing what features of the program are not used by the users could help us display a proper Tip of The Day to make sure the user will learn something new, not read how to save files, if he does it 20 times a week. We'd need a list