Re: [LMMS-devel] Webpage Mock-Up

Yes, I'm well aware of bootstrap. It's taking the internet by storm. I generally fall back on jQuery and am recently evaluating jQuery-UI. Here's a nice stackoverflow comparison between jQuery and Boostrap: >- jQuery UI is fallback safe, it works correctly and looks good in old >brows

Re: [LMMS-devel] Webpage Mock-Up

If you look on Google for bootstrap WordPress you will find a number of plugins On 4 Mar 2014 15:41, "Tres Finocchiaro" wrote: > Perhaps. I'm using one called Skeleton and it has worked very well: > > http://themes.simplethemes.com/skeleton/ > > -Tres > > - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com > > > On Tu

Re: [LMMS-devel] Webpage Mock-Up

Perhaps. I'm using one called Skeleton and it has worked very well: http://themes.simplethemes.com/skeleton/ -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > What I am noticing is the free themes are super poorly coded and not of a > responsive de

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What I am noticing is the free themes are super poorly coded and not of a responsive design On 4 Mar 2014 15:29, "Tres Finocchiaro" wrote: > > With the bootstrap plugins I have found you build your theme for WordPress >> from the ground up. >> > I would advocate we don't build anything from the g

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> With the bootstrap plugins I have found you build your theme for WordPress > from the ground up. > I would advocate we don't build anything from the ground-up if we're using a CMS, except for the LSP2, which if done properly would be written as a plugin module using proper CMS techniques. If the

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With the bootstrap plugins I have found you build your theme for WordPress from the ground up. Another reason for wanting to use WordPress is that those that don't know how to code websites can help maintain it. On 4 Mar 2014 15:13, "Tres Finocchiaro" wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:09 AM,

Re: [LMMS-devel] Webpage Mock-Up

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > I can code from scratch as well. I'm thinking that we can leverage the > blogging features to allow user feedback of what they like etc. > I'm a bit confused by this comment... You mention coding from scratch and then leveraging CMS features...

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I can code from scratch as well. I'm thinking that we can leverage the blogging features to allow user feedback of what they like etc. On 4 Mar 2014 15:00, "Tres Finocchiaro" wrote: > > Tres I am a bit confused here. Are you saying we should avoid wordpress, >> or use wordpress? >> >> You do know

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> Tres I am a bit confused here. Are you saying we should avoid wordpress, > or use wordpress? > > You do know you can embed the php directly into a page or integrate it > into ones theme. I am using a bootstrap framework which you code a > wordpress theme entirely from scratch. > If we choose to

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Tres I am a bit confused here. Are you saying we should avoid wordpress, or use wordpress? You do know you can embed the php directly into a page or integrate it into ones theme. I am using a bootstrap framework which you code a wordpress theme entirely from scratch. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:4

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> > Nah... not more work just install WP to a /news folder on the server > Yeah, that's what I was referring to (fundamentally, as I personally don't care for WP, I don't find that it caters well to custom PHP, aside from the security issues it has had over the years... ). But the difficult part I

Re: [LMMS-devel] Webpage Mock-Up

On 03/03/2014 10:42 PM, Israel wrote: > On 03/03/2014 02:38 PM, Vesa wrote: >> On 03/03/2014 10:15 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: >>> >>> Being a "windows user" is a self-inflicted condition >>> >>> >>> The average windows user brings less to the table.. ...than the >>> average Linux (or M

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On 03/03/2014 02:38 PM, Vesa wrote: On 03/03/2014 10:15 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: Being a "windows user" is a self-inflicted condition The average windows user brings less to the table.. ...than the average Linux (or Mac) user does. @Vesa, I don't want to start a war over Ope

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On 03/03/2014 10:15 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > Being a "windows user" is a self-inflicted condition > > > The average windows user brings less to the table.. ...than the > average Linux (or Mac) user does. > > > @Vesa, > > I don't want to start a war over Operating Systems. Neithe

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On 03/03/2014 02:15 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: Being a "windows user" is a self-inflicted condition The average windows user brings less to the table.. ...than the average Linux (or Mac) user does. @Vesa, I don't want to start a war over Operating Systems. @Israel, Thanks aga

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> > Being a "windows user" is a self-inflicted condition > The average windows user brings less to the table.. ...than the average > Linux (or Mac) user does. @Vesa, I don't want to start a war over Operating Systems. @Israel, Thanks again for the insight. I would recommend a CMS personally,

Re: [LMMS-devel] Webpage Mock-Up

It is perfectly possible to make a great site using only HTML5/CSS3. It will scale great between all screen sizes, and work on all browsers if coded correctly. It is not very hard to do (percentages instead of pixels). CSS has some awesome things that look great (box shadow/alpha transparency)

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On 03/03/2014 04:34 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > User agent spoofing is common enough that we should take it in > account. > > @Vesa, > > I'd like to see some evidence in support of this claim. UA spoofing > generally requires a 3rd party add-on installed in the browser. It > may be co

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> > Can you not host a current deb for Ubuntu? @Nikko, I believe hosting a deb (or in some cases the apt:// handler which launches the app center) is a fantastic idea and is well needed. > I do [UA Switching] all the time too, both on my desktop and on my phone, > where too many sites still embo

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On 03/03/2014 04:20 AM, Israel wrote: > A simple HTML5/CSS site can accomplish great scalability using > percentages and forego JavaScript. If the site is written well ALL > browsers on ALL devices can view it (I am not sure if XP browsers even > count anymore... but you can still write it to w

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A simple HTML5/CSS site can accomplish great scalability using percentages and forego JavaScript. If the site is written well ALL browsers on ALL devices can view it (I am not sure if XP browsers even count anymore... but you can still write it to work on IE8 without a huge sacrifice) I think

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On 03/02/2014 11:59 PM, Stian Jørgensrud wrote: > A download button is just fine after my opinion. > > I don't see where the guessing comes in Vesa and others. It can easily > differ Linux and Windows from each other, only 64bit vs 32bit is the hard > part. I reckon the button should not say downlo

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On 03/02/2014 10:04 PM, Rob Kudla wrote: > That said, putting a lot of effort into making life easier for users > of proprietary operating systems, like the suggestion made a few times > on this list to remove "Linux" from the name of LMMS, are very > unwelcome. If most of the developers use Window

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A download button is just fine after my opinion. I don't see where the guessing comes in Vesa and others. It can easily differ Linux and Windows from each other, only 64bit vs 32bit is the hard part. I reckon the button should not say download if it detects Linux, though, it should say "Open Softw

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Tres, what I am hesitant about is hiding important functionality behind links. Then again, I have gotten plenty of software from sites that display based on UA strings. Maybe we should just try it and see how the web traffic is affeted, if at all. One thing I have noticed is a lack of updated build

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On 03/02/2014 02:24 PM, Vesa wrote: [quoting Tres] >> 3 words: User agent spoofing... 3 words: Nobody does that. :) Well, you now have 3 counterexamples for your three words. I do it all the time too, both on my desktop and on my phone, where too many sites still embody this comic: http://www.xk

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> > So you're suggesting that 99.9% of the users of LINUX Multimedia Studio do > not want a LINUX version of the software? I did not say that. I said if they're clicking the tar.gz then 99.9% have downloaded the wrong package. Tar.gz my work for you, but it is not the direction of the Linux des

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On 03/02/2014 07:10 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > No, let's not do that. The user can easily select which package they > want to download, whereas if we start dumbly guessing the OS and > get it > wrong, it'll be an inconvenience (in worst case, keeping the user from > downloa

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On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Nikko Rocksalot wrote: > > I use UA spoofing every day. > Perhaps, but I still believe this to be extremely rare among end users. As a "UA spoofer" (unless you're doing it for privacy reasons) you are intentionally creating this problem yourself. Steam does this, M

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I use UA spoofing every day. I find that not explicitly having the option to download each version immediately visible is weird. It also asks that the user know the bare minimum about their system, which I think is reasonable to expect from someone involved in music production. Another thing I won

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> > No, let's not do that. The user can easily select which package they > want to download, whereas if we start dumbly guessing the OS and get it > wrong, it'll be an inconvenience (in worst case, keeping the user from > downloading the package they want at all). > > 3 words: User agent spoofing..

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On 03/02/2014 04:17 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > The most complicated part of this mockup if we were to implement it is > the download button that does client detection (still a trivial > JavaScript task). > > No, let's not do that. The user can easily select which package they want to download

Re: [LMMS-devel] Webpage Mock-Up

On 03/02/2014 08:17 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: On Mar 1, 2014 12:52 AM, "Jonathan Aquilina" > wrote: > > Is this just an updated version of the site? What worries me is the lack of responsive design. Yes, actually its just a gimp-style mockup. Responsive des

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On Mar 1, 2014 12:52 AM, "Jonathan Aquilina" wrote: > > Is this just an updated version of the site? What worries me is the lack of responsive design. Yes, actually its just a gimp-style mockup. Responsive design is a nice to have but for the scope of 1.0.0 have we considered just a small page u

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Hell Yeah! -- View this message in context: http://linux-multimedia-studio-lmms.996328.n3.nabble.com/Webpage-Mock-Up-tp6697p6709.html Sent from the lmms-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Flow-based real-time

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Maybe so, but I like the direction things are going in. the images shouldn't be a problem to update. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Vesa wrote: > On 02/28/2014 10:20 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > Just a mock-up front page for the website. :) > > Screenshots are already outdated... > > > --

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Is this just an updated version of the site? What worries me is the lack of responsive design. On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Israel wrote: > On 02/28/2014 02:20 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > Just a mock-up front page for the website. :) > > > http://i.imgur.com/cnReUs2.png > - tres.fino

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On 02/28/2014 02:20 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: Just a mock-up front page for the website. :) http://i.imgur.com/cnReUs2.png - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com -- Flow-based real-time tra

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On 02/28/2014 10:20 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > Just a mock-up front page for the website. :) Screenshots are already outdated... -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic

[LMMS-devel] Webpage Mock-Up

Just a mock-up front page for the website. :) http://i.imgur.com/cnReUs2.png - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAA