Re: Rationale for TRACE-level/priority.

2003-11-03 Thread Jim Moore
Ceki's comments do sound like that, but giving them a more charitable reading I suspect that he simply wants to make sure that everything's clear when he does a full explanation, and so is taking time to do a proper "write up." ApacheCon is merely the deadline for getting everything ready. If tha

RE: Rationale for TRACE-level/priority.

2003-10-30 Thread Jim Moore
s by people fighting to put it in and those arguing for why it's been left out... -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Dennis Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:19 PM To: Log4J Developers List Subject: Re: Rationale for TRACE-level/priority. The strange

RE: Rationale for TRACE-level/priority.

2003-10-29 Thread Jim Moore
While I agree not having TRACE built in is a significant deficiency in what Log4j provides, Log4j DOES make it trivial to add and is addressed in the FAQ. For your convenience, here's a direct link to the relevant section in the FAQ: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?Log4JProjectPages/T

RE: Rationale for TRACE-level/priority.

2003-10-29 Thread Jim Moore
While I agree not having TRACE built in is a significant deficiency in what Log4j provides, Log4j DOES make it trivial to add and is addressed in the FAQ. For your convenience, here's a direct link to the relevant section in the FAQ: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?Log4JProjectPages/T

RE: Spaces instead of tabs please

2003-09-20 Thread Jim Moore
it's best to leave that up to the human eye as much as possible... -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Scott Heaberlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:50 PM To: 'Log4J Developers List' Subject: RE: Spaces instead of tabs please Cou

RE: Adding additional data to log

2003-08-07 Thread Jim Moore
Or an ObjectRenderer. Depends on exactly what you need. -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:36 AM To: Log4J Developers List Subject: RE: Adding additional data to log Howdy, You could use MDC. And you should use the log

RE: Donations link

2003-07-23 Thread Jim Moore
No objections at all in principle. Just curious what's meant, exactly, by "cover up the expenses of log4j development." -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Donations link Hello, I would l

RE: Varargs in JDK 1.5 will help loggers (a bit)

2003-07-04 Thread Jim Moore
"Syntactic sugar." With the exception of generics, all the the syntax enhancements in JDK 1.5 are just easier ways to write things that you could always do. People like the foreach construct, they find manually converting between primatives and Objects to be a nuisance, etc. Same thing here. As

RE: Testing Chainsaw v2

2003-06-18 Thread Jim Moore
-Dlog4j.configuration wants a URL. That means you have to use the "file:" (ie, "-Dlog4j.configuration=file:myLog4j.xml") -Original Message- From: Scott Heaberlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:22 PM To: Log4J Developers List Subject: RE: Testing Chainsaw v2

RE: Log4J Future and Avalon

2003-06-18 Thread Jim Moore
IOC stands for Inversion Of Control: http://avalon.apache.org/framework/guide-patterns-ioc.html -Original Message- From: Raymond DeCampo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:54 AM To: Log4J Developers List Subject: Re: Log4J Future and Avalon Berin Loritsch wrote

RE: [VOTE] Two new committers

2003-06-18 Thread Jim Moore
They've very much overcome the earlier (very reasonable) reservations expressed. +1 for both -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] Two new committers Hi all, I would like to propose

RE: Web start app & Certificates

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Moore
turn out to abuse the cert and it needs to be revoked.) -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Paul Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:30 PM To: Log4j-Dev (E-mail) Subject: Web start app & Certificates Hey all, Chainsaw v2 is not REALLY REALLY close to bei

RE: Out of commission

2003-06-03 Thread Jim Moore
Title: Message I'll very heartily second that.  I've also used both, though the moment I have to type nonsense that the computer should take care of for me (eg, "import org.apache.log4j.Logger;") I go running back to IDEA as quickly as I can.  Nothing else I've seen is on the same planet wit

RE: Custom Log Level Example(s)

2003-03-19 Thread Jim Moore
ximum log file size log4j.appender.R.MaxFileSize=100KB log4j.appender.R.MaxBackupIndex=1 log4j.appender.R.layout=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout log4j.appender.R.layout.ConversionPattern=%p %t %c - %m%n At 01:14 PM 3/19/2003 -0500, Jim Moore wrote: >http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?Log4JProjectPages

RE: Custom Log Level Example(s)

2003-03-19 Thread Jim Moore
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?Log4JProjectPages/TraceLevel -Original Message- From: David Siegel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Custom Log Level Example(s) Hi I've been scanning numerous sites looking

RE: Writing a new appender...

2003-03-08 Thread Jim Moore
ee in the FileAppender example, it's exactly what you're looking for. -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Bill Chmura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Writing a new appender... I am writing a new appender and cannot r

RE: [VOTE] Jacob Kjome as committer to log4j-sandbox

2003-02-10 Thread Jim Moore
+1 -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] Jacob Kjome as committer to log4j-sandbox Hi all, I'd like to propose Jacob Kjome as committer to the log4j-sandbox. This will allow Jacob

RE: Can't define custom level

2003-02-06 Thread Jim Moore
This is the wrong list. You want the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. This one is for the developers OF log4j. Because you're passing in a null Priority. You can see the code for Priority here: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j/src/java/org/apache/log4j/Priori ty.java?rev=1.23 Without any more

RE: Why would I use Log4J when Sun has a logging API?

2003-01-31 Thread Jim Moore
Ceki's got a big write-up on that in his book... Ceki, would it be cool to post that? -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:07 AM To: Log4J Developers List Subject: RE: Why would I use Log4J when Sun has a logging API? Howdy

RE: how to map application message codes in the log format using log4

2003-01-28 Thread Jim Moore
ss); LOG.info(MyErrorCode.V_23_23344("Clipboard.dll")); The beauty of that approach is that I'm GUARANTEED that the message code will be found and that I've passed in all substitutions. Also, since the message is in the Javadoc, Ctl-Q (in IDEA) shows me instantly what the messag

RE: activate/ deactivate Logger

2003-01-28 Thread Jim Moore
You should send these kinds of questions to log4j-user@, not log4j-dev@. Take a look at http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/api/org/apache/log4j/helpers/FileWatchd og.html -Original Message- From: Andreas Bröker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:23 PM To: [EMA

RE: [VOTE] Requiring JDK 1.2

2002-10-15 Thread Jim Moore
Starting with log4j 1.3 I think the timing would be appropriate to drop JDK 1.1 support. +1 -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] Requiring JDK 1.2 Hello all, Given the hoops we ha

RE: CVS/SSH on Windows

2002-06-24 Thread Jim Moore
Also use Cygwin for CVS/SSH. Also failed miserably trying to get WinCVS to do it. -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CVS/SSH on Windows Hi all, I use the CVS/SSH combination that is deliv

RE: TRACE level

2002-06-03 Thread Jim Moore
I'll save you some programming: public class TraceLevel extends Level { public static final int TRACE_INT = 800; // We assimilate TRACE to DEBUG on Syslog private static final int SYSLOG_TRACE_INT = 7; public static final TraceLevel TRACE = new TraceLevel(TRACE_INT, "TRACE", SYSLO

RE: [VOTE] new committer Brad Marlborough

2002-04-26 Thread Jim Moore
+1 -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] new committer Brad Marlborough I almost forgot. Brad Marlborough one of the authors of LogFactor5 would like to continue enhancing LF5. I pro

RE: [VOTE] new committer Mark Womack

2002-04-26 Thread Jim Moore
+1 -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] new committer Mark Womack Mark Womack has been an active contributor for quite some time now. I propose that he be granted committer access. H

RE: fail over

2002-04-16 Thread Jim Moore
You'll get a better response by posting this to the appropriate list (namely [EMAIL PROTECTED]). This list is for communication between the developers of Log4j. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [Vote] LogFactor5 Donation

2002-04-11 Thread Jim Moore
+1 -- ditto. Like I said before, I currently use LF5, and it's been great. -Original Message- From: Oliver Burn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List Subject: Re: [Vote] LogFactor5 Donation +1 This looks like being a fan

RE: LogFactor5 Donation

2002-04-11 Thread Jim Moore
Interesting timing -- just a couple of months ago we agreed to make Chainsaw part of the Log4j distribution. I'm a very happy LF5 user and would love to see it as part of the standard dist, but I'm not sure how it would work to have two GUI viewers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: [VOTE] New committer Oliver Burn

2002-03-12 Thread Jim Moore
+1 -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] New committer Oliver Burn Hi, I would like to nominate Oliver Burn as a new committer to log4j. Oliver is the author of chainsaw. He has agr

RE: The future

2002-03-08 Thread Jim Moore
Is there a list on what's planned for 1.3? I can't find it on the log4j site or in the mailing list archives. (Might just be missing it, though.) -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The futu

RE: Options for appenders

2002-03-04 Thread Jim Moore
=Bush" You can find the archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=log4j-user&r=1&w=2 and http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=log4j-dev&r=1&w=2 -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Gary Udstrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 7:28 PM To: log4

RE: newbie to log4j

2002-03-01 Thread Jim Moore
You're posting to the wrong list: You should be posting to the Users list, not the Developers list. This one is for the Developers of Log4j. Use Log4j. If you need more information, check out the mailing list archives. -Original Message- From: Eyal Lewinsohn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE: Extending Priority below DEBUG

2002-02-13 Thread Jim Moore
import org.apache.log4j.Priority; /** * This class introduces a new priority level called TRACE. TRACE has * lower priority than DEBUG. */ public class TraceablePriority extends Priority { public static final int TRACE_INT = 800; // We assimilate TRACE to DEBUG on Syslog private st

RE: [VOTE] new committer

2001-12-17 Thread Jim Moore
Ditto. -0 -Original Message- From: Mathias Bogaert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:20 PM To: Log4J Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] new committer Hello, Although it has been a while since I committed my last code (been busy on other really interesting

RE: [POLL] Documentation in Docbook

2001-09-06 Thread Jim Moore
Is there an ant target for building the docs? -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:52 AM To: LOG4J Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [POLL] Documentation in Docbook Paul, I checked in my very early draft. It contains a

RE: Revised API Proposal

2001-09-01 Thread Jim Moore
ckage, but why should you have to do that translation? Logger, Level, and LogManager fit much more closely to people's way of thinking about logging. -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Christopher Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:54 AM To: LOG4J Develop

RE: Revised log4j interfaces

2001-08-24 Thread Jim Moore
#x27;re using a pre-Java 2 system, J2ME, etc., then you don't get the advantage of that kind of optimization. I absolutely agree with Dean, but I work in a J2SE and J2EE environment, so flexibility and maintainability is more important to me than compati

RE: Revised log4j interfaces

2001-08-23 Thread Jim Moore
Looks great! There's a typo on the very last line. It should be "may be influenced by system properties." btw: There's no performance hit on HotSpot for Logger being an interface instead of a class, but that's only with HotSpot. -Jim Moore -Original Message-

RE: jsr47 incompatabilities

2001-07-27 Thread Jim Moore
The most obvious incompatibility is that it's in the java.anything package. The security manager doesn't allow you to add things to that namespace simply by using the classpath (for what I hope are obvious reasons). You have to force the issue using the "boot classpath." It's possible to do, but

RE: Log4j improvement

2001-07-03 Thread Jim Moore
r or the VM, which people only run under those conditions if they really like slow performance, and even then you can't be sure SOMETHING's not going on behind the scenes. Just thought you'd like to know that even the people within Sun couldn't solve the problem -- even by tryin

RE: Log4j improvement

2001-07-02 Thread Jim Moore
owever, if you want something fancier (like in the code you linked to) you can override the default behavior for various types of objects by providing your own ObjectRenders (in the org.apache.log4j.or package) and registering them with the RendererMap (available from the Hierarchy).

RE: Log4j support for JDK 1.1

2001-06-20 Thread Jim Moore
That would seem to be the more "politic" way to go... -Original Message- From: Paul Glezen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:05 AM To: LOG4J Developers Mailing List Subject: Log4j support for JDK 1.1 I like the idea of designating a last release that official

RE: Plan for release 1.2

2001-06-18 Thread Jim Moore
e-effects; so deciphering it will take time. Besides, I do have a "real" job... :) -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Ceki Gulcu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:51 AM To: LOG4J Developers Mailing List Subject: RE: Plan for release 1.2 At 10:0

RE: Plan for release 1.2

2001-06-18 Thread Jim Moore
endant (ie, "#!/bin/sh") and more easily done as part of the regular build process? Am I missing something fundimental, or do we simply need a more defined "test environment"? -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Ceki Gulcu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 1

RE: [VOTE] New committer Chris Taylor

2001-06-17 Thread Jim Moore
+1 -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] New committer Chris Taylor Greetings, I would like to nominate Chris Taylor as a new log4j committer. He has made several important contributions

thread name in LoggingEvent

2001-06-15 Thread Jim Moore
that information until it's in an AsyncAppender (or having been serialized to a server) then it will give the wrong name. Any reason for threadName to not get set at LoggingEvent creation? -Jim Moore - To unsubscribe, e-ma

RE: Comments on JSR47

2001-06-12 Thread Jim Moore
At JavaOne they made a big deal out of the influence of Log4j on the new logging API (though they didn't mention names, and they said it is an IBM project). I think they did that to get the Log4j people to stop bothering them about the lack of pluggablity, but... :-) -Jim Moore -Ori

RE: automatic creation of output directory

2001-05-30 Thread Jim Moore
ame) is doing exactly what the user asked for. Permissions through that point must be writable, of course, or you'd be violating security, but creating a file/directory in a writable file/directory is fine from a security perspective. -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [m

RE: log viewer

2001-05-24 Thread Jim Moore
Suggestion: If you spit everything out in XML with a "Thou shalt use this DTD to use this viewer" then you don't have to worry about various formats and you can use any of the awesome XML tools (eg. Xerces, Cocoon, etc.) to transform it any way you like easily. Transformations from XML are so sim

[PATCH] SMTPAppender.java

2001-05-19 Thread Jim Moore
, TriggerEventEvaluator and Message objects) now have protected methods for setting and getting them. * The Session member was removed as a member because it's only used in one method, and therefore made local. -Jim Moore --- SMTPAppender.oldSat May 19 17:06:16

RE: Log4J beyond 1.1 -- extensibility

2001-05-19 Thread Jim Moore
used by thousands of programmers, the ease with which they can extend -- rather than rewrite -- that functionality is extremely important. That said, of course, log4j is extremely flexible and well written. It's just that, being so, problems like the above are all the more glaring. -Jim Moore -O

RE: Log4J beyond 1.1 -- modify at runtime

2001-05-19 Thread Jim Moore
What is meant, exactly, by "modify log4j settings at runtime"? From a org.apache.log4j.gui.ChangeLoggingDialog within the application being run? Sending it a SIGHUP to reread the file? From another VM that talks over a socket? -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Ceki Gul

RE: Log4J beyond 1.1, thunderdome!

2001-05-19 Thread Jim Moore
across this same problem in other places too, but the SMTPAppender really disturbed me since it's an appender and therefore fairly likely for people to want to extend with new functionality. The point being, while log4j is currently great for "plugging in" new features, it's not very

RE: Question on Category

2001-05-01 Thread Jim Moore
http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/manual.html Near the top is a section on "Categories, Appenders and Layouts". Most of that section in the introductory manual is devoted to exactly what you're asking. -Jim Moore -Original Message- From: Velraja Arumugam [mailto:[

RE: Question - PropertyConfigrator

2001-04-25 Thread Jim Moore
1) It's a static method, so it's once per ClassLoader, not Thread. 2) You're doing it the hard way. Use the log4j.configuration property instead. java -Dlog4j.configuration=file:MyConfigFile.properties MyProg Take a look at the JavaDocs for PropertyConfigurator. -Jim Moore

[PATCH] SMTPAppender.java

2001-04-13 Thread Jim Moore
protected methods for setting and getting those object. * The Session member was removed as a member because it's only used in one method, and therefore made local. -Jim Moore --- SMTPAppender.oldFri Apr 13 10:45:00 2001 +++ SMTPAppender.java Fri Apr 13

Bug in build.xml

2001-03-22 Thread Jim Moore
In build/build.xml in the current contents of CVS it reads ^ The extra "=" causes it to incorrectly create the dist information. -Jim Moore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT