RE: Binary compatibility between versions of log4j

2002-06-11 Thread John Armstrong
OK. I'll close the thread. -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 June 2002 13:56 To: Log4J Developers List Subject: RE: Binary compatibility between versions of log4j You're wasting my time. At 13:44 11.06.2002 +0100, you wrote: >Great so your "Probl

RE: Binary compatibility between versions of log4j

2002-06-11 Thread John Armstrong
Oops I forgot - I did say I'd be happy to work with that Problem Definition so I did step into it. My mistake. -Original Message- From: John Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 June 2002 13:44 To: 'Log4J Developers List' Subject: RE: Binary compatibility betw

RE: Binary compatibility between versions of log4j

2002-06-11 Thread John Armstrong
Great so your "Problem Definition" was a trap rather than a constructive comment. Sorry I didn't step into it. > > > > Sigh. > > So in the spirit of not being constructive consider: Problem: My project uses product X which depends on log4j version 1.0.4 (it uses Category.assert). My project al

RE: Binary compatibility between versions of log4j

2002-06-11 Thread John Armstrong
Ceki's definition of the problem meets my practical concerns and so I am happy to run with it. Clearly Ceki wishes to reduce the scope of the problem - I quite agree that this should be done. I wouldn't want to do this as part of the problem definition myself because I would consider that to be se

RE: Binary compatibility between versions of log4j

2002-06-11 Thread John Armstrong
Your question is in a different tense to mine. You ask: "For instance, what part or parts of log4j ARE binary incompatible?" My question is: "what part or parts of log4j MAY BECOME binary incompatible?" At present the answer to this question is apparently "any of log4j may become binary incomp

RE: Binary compatibility between versions of log4j

2002-06-11 Thread John Armstrong
Thanks for the replies. I would like to summarize. There seem to be three basic views: 1) There is no problem (Ceki Gülcü, Anders Kristensen) 2) Binary compatibility should be maintained to some extent, the question is how (John Armstrong, Doug, Sean Hager, Niclas Hedhman, Paul Duffin) 3) Work

RE: Binary compatibility between versions of log4j

2002-06-06 Thread John Armstrong
ecated method. I hope this answers the question and alleviates your concerns. At 11:04 06.06.2002 +0100, John Armstrong wrote: >What guarantees are there (if any) for binary compatibility between >different versions of log4j? > >We have recently had to upgrade from version 1.0.4

Binary compatibility between versions of log4j

2002-06-06 Thread John Armstrong
What guarantees are there (if any) for binary compatibility between different versions of log4j? We have recently had to upgrade from version 1.0.4 of log4j to version 1.1.3. I was surprised to notice that there was not complete binary compatibility between these releases though fortunately it wa