Re: Logging Services project at Apache

2003-12-20 Thread Ceki Gülcü
I suggest that all public discussion concerning the Logging Services projects be held on the newly created [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. -- Ceki Gülcü For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual" ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp ---

Re: Logging Services project at Apache

2003-12-19 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 12:01 AM 12/19/2003 -0700, Tad E Smith wrote: Ceki, I'm interested, but I have to ask the question. What does this mean to me? It's not clear to me what role would be and how much effort would be involved. Not to mention any code changes that would be required. Hi Tad, It would mean that

Re: Logging Services project at Apache

2003-12-15 Thread Ceki Gülcü
I would welcome any proposal that outlines a concrete integration path for LogKit. At 01:15 AM 12/15/2003 +0100, Stephen McConnell wrote: Ceki : One item you may want to add is the inclusion of the Avalon LogKit package in the list of products under the "rationalization" effort. I think this w

Re: Logging Services project at Apache

2003-12-14 Thread Stephen McConnell
Ceki : One item you may want to add is the inclusion of the Avalon LogKit package in the list of products under the "rationalization" effort. I think this would be very helpful in terms of moving Avalon closer to a common logging strategy. Cheers, Steve. Ceki Gülcü wrote: Hello, This messa

Re: Logging Services project at Apache

2003-12-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 13 Dec 2003, at 02:26, Jacob Kjome wrote: At 03:49 PM 12/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: You raise interesting questions. The licensing wars are indeed getting tiresome. Nevertheless, qualifying the Apache license as viral is highly inaccurate. The ASF asks you to adopt the Apache Software License i

Re: Logging Services project at Apache

2003-12-12 Thread Jacob Kjome
At 03:49 PM 12/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: You raise interesting questions. The licensing wars are indeed getting tiresome. Nevertheless, qualifying the Apache license as viral is highly inaccurate. The ASF asks you to adopt the Apache Software License if you decide to live under its roof. That is t

Re: Logging Services project at Apache

2003-12-12 Thread Ceki Gülcü
You raise interesting questions. The licensing wars are indeed getting tiresome. Nevertheless, qualifying the Apache license as viral is highly inaccurate. The ASF asks you to adopt the Apache Software License if you decide to live under its roof. That is the rule. The proposal was for the Logging

Re: Logging Services project at Apache

2003-12-12 Thread Jacob Kjome
At 12:34 PM 12/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: Please note that joining the Logging Services project would necessarily mean changing your existing license to the Apache Software License. I know licences like GPL and LGPL have been said to be "viral", but isn't Apache being a bit viral? The Apache point

Logging Services project at Apache

2003-12-12 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Hello, This message is to inform you that we, the log4j developers, are actively considering the creation of a top level Apache project offering a wide-range of cross-language Logging Services. You are invited to join the discussion at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. You can also follow the th