Re: Vigilog listing as "Third-party extension"?

2007-04-03 Thread Paul Smith
bear in mind that svn can use multiple connections to communicate, and often asks you for each connection. I've seen this before, usually it's only 3 times, and then it seems to work. we use svn here at Aconex and I've seen it do that to me. On 04/04/2007, at 4:32 PM, Jacob Kjome wrote: A

Re: Vigilog listing as "Third-party extension"?

2007-04-03 Thread Jacob Kjome
At 12:47 AM 4/4/2007, you wrote: > >On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:37 AM, Jacob Kjome wrote: > >> >> I checked out with a URL that looks like >> >> https://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/repos/asf/logging/log4j/trunk >> > >I've never needed to specify username:password in the URL. Should >only need creden

Re: Vigilog listing as "Third-party extension"?

2007-04-03 Thread Curt Arnold
On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:37 AM, Jacob Kjome wrote: I checked out with a URL that looks like https://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/repos/asf/logging/log4j/trunk I've never needed to specify username:password in the URL. Should only need credentials on commit. Then I modified download.xm

Re: Vigilog listing as "Third-party extension"?

2007-04-03 Thread Jacob Kjome
At 11:00 AM 4/3/2007, you wrote: >Quoting Curt Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> On Apr 3, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Jacob Kjome wrote: >> >> > >> > I would add this to the download.xml xdocs, but it seems as if my >> > commit rights have been, somehow, revoked. I can log into >> > people.apache.org,

Re: 1.3 - A Line in the Sand

2007-04-03 Thread Jacob Kjome
At 12:51 PM 4/3/2007, you wrote: > >On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:07 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > >log4j 1.3 in my opinion is stuck in a hopeless position. It is too >incompatible with log4j 1.2.x to ever be recommended as a drop-in >replacement for log4j 1.2 in a production environment. However, if >you chan

Re: 1.3 - A Line in the Sand

2007-04-03 Thread Jess Holle
Curt Arnold wrote: On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Jess Holle wrote: Largely I won't disagree. That said, I think there is a point to having a new log4j version that is almost entirely API (source and binary) compatible with log4j 1.2.14, but: Has finer-grained synchronization and eliminates some

Re: 1.3 - A Line in the Sand

2007-04-03 Thread Curt Arnold
On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Jess Holle wrote: Largely I won't disagree. That said, I think there is a point to having a new log4j version that is almost entirely API (source and binary) compatible with log4j 1.2.14, but: Has finer-grained synchronization and eliminates some possibilities

Re: 1.3 - A Line in the Sand

2007-04-03 Thread Curt Arnold
On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:07 PM, Paul Smith wrote: At some point we can no longer ignore the decision about where 1.3 should go. I am beginning to think that we should scale back 1.3 to be less of the planned revolution and more of a substantial-update-but- completely-backward compatible (to a

RE: 1.3 - A Line in the Sand

2007-04-03 Thread Gary Gregory
> -Original Message- > From: Jacob Kjome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:11 PM > To: Log4J Developers List > Subject: Re: 1.3 - A Line in the Sand > > At 07:07 PM 4/2/2007, you wrote: > >At some point we can no longer ignore the decision about where 1.3 > >shou

Re: Vigilog listing as "Third-party extension"?

2007-04-03 Thread Jacob Kjome
Quoting Curt Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Apr 3, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Jacob Kjome wrote: > > > > > I would add this to the download.xml xdocs, but it seems as if my > > commit rights have been, somehow, revoked. I can log into > > people.apache.org, but can't seem to check anything in to Log4

Re: Vigilog listing as "Third-party extension"?

2007-04-03 Thread Curt Arnold
On Apr 3, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Jacob Kjome wrote: I would add this to the download.xml xdocs, but it seems as if my commit rights have been, somehow, revoked. I can log into people.apache.org, but can't seem to check anything in to Log4j using TortoiseSVN. Any ideas? BTW, at such point

Re: 1.3 - A Line in the Sand

2007-04-03 Thread Jess Holle
Largely I won't disagree. That said, I think there is a point to having a new log4j version that is almost entirely API (source and binary) compatible with log4j 1.2.14, but: 1. Has finer-grained synchronization and eliminates some possibilities that currently exist for deadlocks, etc.

Re: 1.3 - A Line in the Sand

2007-04-03 Thread Noel Grandin
Hi I'm just an end-user of log4j, so I have no perspective on the internal dev issues. But from the POV of a programmer who uses log4j in many projects, I have to say that it's pretty great the way it is!! It may simply be that log4j as it currently stands is good enough for the vast majority of

Re: 1.3 - A Line in the Sand

2007-04-03 Thread Paul Smith
I think it's been said before that 1.3 may be more of a dead end than anything else. Some interesting things went into it, but the fact that it became so incompatible with Log4j-1.2.xx is a real problem. Is it worth a release or do we just leave it as-is, forever alpha, and move on to 2