Re: ApacheCon CFP

2014-02-18 Thread Nicholas Williams
I have just been told that a couple of our presentations were miss-marked. Please stand by... :-) Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos > On Feb 18, 2014, at 7:38, Nicholas Williams > wrote: > > Unfortunately, they have wait-listed ALL

Re: ApacheCon CFP

2014-02-18 Thread Nicholas Williams
Unfortunately, they have wait-listed ALL FOUR of our presentations. It's rather maddening how they kept emailing us saying "your project isn't represented" and "not enough people have submitted CFPs," and now they decided that our project won't be represented. Nick Sent from my iPhone, so ple

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc1 RC2

2014-02-13 Thread Nicholas Williams
Apparently I don't have karma to commit anything on dist, because I can't commit my keys OR the rc1 release artifacts. I'm told it's forbidden. Can y'all provide me (even temporary) karma to do that? Or does Infra have to get involved? Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc1 RC2

2014-02-10 Thread Nicholas Williams
I think it's very clearly a yes. The legal page says code with the MIT license can be included in ASF projects. However, I have a suggestion for the next release that will make this whole discussion moot: let's use the CDN instead of including the JQuery source code in source control. That way

Re: Author "tags" in xdocs

2014-02-08 Thread Nicholas Williams
Agreed. Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos > On Feb 8, 2014, at 9:05, Remko Popma wrote: > > Fine with me also. > Remko > >> On Saturday, February 8, 2014, Gary Gregory wrote: >> Fine with me. >> >> Gary >> >> >> Original message --

Re: Using Custom Levels with a Custom/Wrapper Interface

2014-01-26 Thread Nicholas Williams
void diag(String message); > // optional other methods > } > > That way, this interface exists at compile time. > >> On Monday, January 27, 2014, Nicholas Williams >> wrote: >> Scott, invokedynamic and javassist...those are all /runtime/ things.

Re: Using Custom Levels with a Custom/Wrapper Interface

2014-01-26 Thread Nicholas Williams
Scott, invokedynamic and javassist...those are all /runtime/ things. The user needs Logger#notice to be available at compile time. Those are not compatible. Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos > On Jan 26, 2014, at 22:37, Scott Deboy wrote: > > Yes, I

Re: Enums and Custom Levels

2014-01-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
Ralph, if you're getting compile errors with that code, A) there's a copy-paste/transposition error, or B) there's something wrong with your (non-standard?) compiler. Given: abstract class A { ... } This is perfectly legal in Java 5+: A a = new A() { }; That's an anonymous inner class extendi

Re: Enums and Custom Levels

2014-01-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
easy > to handle as in those cases the custom levels need to be converted to a > StdLevel and then that enum is used. > > Unless anyone objects I plan on committing this later today once I finish it > and create some tests and documentation. > > Ralph > > > >>

Re: Enums and Custom Levels

2014-01-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
No, of course, everyone seems to agree that custom levels should be permitted. But I never heard agreement on whether we were going the extensible enum route or the Level-as-interface route. The camp still seemed to disagree on that. Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and

Re: Web Issues, Logging Levels, and GA

2014-01-18 Thread Nicholas Williams
I prefer to avoid markers whenever possible. Unlike levels, markers require some amount of configuration to get them to log/not log when desired. They don't "just work." N Sent from my iPhone from LAX baggage claim, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos > On Jan 18, 2014, at 14:0

Re: Question about Log4jServletFilter in core.

2014-01-18 Thread Nicholas Williams
y > to go for servlet 3.0. > > >> On 18 January 2014 15:19, Ralph Goers wrote: >> I was hoping to start the GA release sooner than that. >> >> If the servlet context initializer is disabled then the listener should >> still be allowed. >> >> Ra

Re: Web Issues, Logging Levels, and GA

2014-01-18 Thread Nicholas Williams
I explained in the email why CONFIG > INFO. Not sure I can explain it any better. :-/ To repeat in case you didn't see it: >> My reason for putting CONFIG between INFO and WARN is simple: I ALWAYS want >> to see config-related messages when the application starts, but I don't >> always want to

Re: Question about Log4jServletFilter in core.

2014-01-18 Thread Nicholas Williams
Yes. Next weekend I plan on adding a Servlet context parameter that allows the user to disable starting Log4j automatically. That should allow us to keep everything in one JAR while supporting both sides of the argument. Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent ty

Re: Web Issues, Logging Levels, and GA

2014-01-18 Thread Nicholas Williams
To be clear, here's how I see it (assuming we adopted all levels proposed): FATAL > ERROR > WARN > CONFIG > INFO > VERBOSE > DEBUG > FINE > TRACE. CONFIG would map to INFO for slf4j. VERBOSE and FINE would both map to DEBUG. My motivation for FINE was similar to your motivation for VERBOSE: DEBU

Logo Contest on Homepage?

2013-08-17 Thread Nicholas Williams
Umm, guys? Nobody ever put the logo contest on the homepage. No wonder we only have one submission so far! I don't have access to do this that I know of. Someone needs to update it ASAP! Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re: log4j-dev mail erratic

2013-07-20 Thread Nicholas Williams
Emails have been very snappy for me. Perhaps your provider is marking some as spam, or delaying some? Then again, you're using Yahoo! mail. I can't encourage you enough to use someone else. I will note: a lot of these messages used to be delivered to spam for me (Gmail). So I created a filter "to:

LOG4J2-291 and error handling

2013-07-16 Thread Nicholas Williams
If it helps, check out LOG4J2-291. I may be handling errors incorrectly in the JDBC/JPA/NoSQL appenders. If an exception is thrown within the *Manager write methods, should I just let that exception propagate (wrapping it if it's a checked exception that I can't throw)? Should I wrap all exceptions

Re: [PROPOSAL] for the text of an email and front page of the site

2013-05-11 Thread Nicholas Williams
Sounds good to me, for the most part. But perhaps a sooner date? I think it would be nice if the new logo was in place by then. It seems (to me, anyway) that we are very close to general availability. Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos On May 11, 2013, a

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-beta6 rc2

2013-05-09 Thread Nicholas Williams
:-/ fair enough. But I would definitely like to put the rush on beta7, like you said. Can someone figure out this bug and go ahead and commit the change so that if the release is canceled for one reason or another the bug will already be fixed? Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief re

Re: Appenders + Managers + Reconfiguration

2013-04-29 Thread Nicholas Williams
*so I should include the connection information in my _DatabaseManagers' names... Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:34, Nicholas Williams wrote: > Oh! That makes sense! So I should include the connection information

Re: Appenders + Managers + Reconfiguration

2013-04-29 Thread Nicholas Williams
Oh! That makes sense! So I should include the connection information in my FileManager's name so that a new one gets created if the connection information changes. Right? Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:30, Ralph Goers wrote: >

Re: Database Appenders

2013-04-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
s considerably more complicated. > > Ralph > > > > > On Apr 25, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Nicholas Williams wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Nicholas Williams < > nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1

Re: Database Appenders

2013-04-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
at 1:11 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > Rather than a JDBC appender I was hoping for a more generic appender that > could use JPA or something else. > > > On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Nicholas Williams wrote: > > > First, a quick question: do we anticipate the next version

Re: Database Appenders

2013-04-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Nicholas Williams < nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Nicholas Williams < > nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>

Re: Database Appenders

2013-04-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Nicholas Williams < nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > >> I thought it included a vendor neutral NoSQL API in its stack someplace. >> > > From what I can tell, it

Re: Database Appenders

2013-04-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
ding a whole lot of useful information on their website. > > Gary > > On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:47, Nicholas Williams < > nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM, N

Re: Database Appenders

2013-04-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Nicholas Williams < > nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Remko Popma wrote: >> >>> I think this is the link Gary is

Re: Database Appenders

2013-04-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013/04/25, at 23:51, Gary Gregory wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Nicholas Williams < > nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > >> First, a quick question: do we anticipate the next version to be beta6 or >> rc1?

Re: Database Appenders

2013-04-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Nicholas Williams < > nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > >> First, a quick question: do we anticipate the next version to be beta6 or >> rc1? Just curious. >> > >

Database Appenders

2013-04-25 Thread Nicholas Williams
First, a quick question: do we anticipate the next version to be beta6 or rc1? Just curious. I'm currently working on cleaning up compiler warnings throughout the project and should have that completed soon. I want to go ahead and get the conversation started about database appenders. I'd like to