RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Jensen, Jeff
How would we use this component? Would it be a full replacement for the standard distribution, or an adder jar? I imagine a full replacement, but one must not assume...:-) I would expect it to be the same version as the standard release with the one file difference. Awareness and Convenience

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Jensen, Jeff
> -Original Message- > From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:03 AM > To: Log4J Users List > Subject: RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace" > > > > Howdy, > > >I agree that this debate will carry on forever, because we all wo

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Jensen, Jeff
> -Original Message- > From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:59 AM > To: Log4J Users List > Subject: RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace" > > > > Howdy, > > >To separate concerns. Because trace info is a specific level, mo

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Scott Deboy
It would be for jboss folks...they use a custom trace level. I've already created a custom level (although it's probably not perfect) for providing support for jdk1.4 util.logging-generated events (and their levels) in Chainsaw v2. See http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-log4j/src/java/org/apac

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread shmittal
Hypothetically speaking, let's say there was a log4j sandbox jar with a Level class replacement that includes a TRACE level, would that be useful for people? ---> Should do.. as long as the sandbox stays compatible with future versions of log4J. Shuchi

Help with the FallBackErrorHandler

2003-09-22 Thread Sabitha
Hi, I am trying to use the FallBackErrorHandler but cannot seem to get it to work. Here is my log4j-config.xml file:

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >It does not really matter what TRACE level gets used for. Each development >team / organization will have their interpretation of it depending on how >they intend to use the information logged at both levels. I agree, it doesn't matter what it's used for, only if it's used at all. >More

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread shmittal
It does not really matter what TRACE level gets used for. Each development team / organization will have their interpretation of it depending on how they intend to use the information logged at both levels. More importantly - having a level more verbose than DEBUG is very handy. We are planni

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >I agree that this debate will carry on forever, because we all work >differently. I believe having one trace level is good compromise. The >way I work is to put debug statements into the code to decipher what is >happening in the program flow, but I would love to have a trace level to >

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Andreas Bothner [ MTN - Innovation Centre ]
Hi, I agree that this debate will carry on forever, because we all work differently. I believe having one trace level is good compromise. The way I work is to put debug statements into the code to decipher what is happening in the program flow, but I would love to have a trace level to print out

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >To separate concerns. Because trace info is a specific level, more minutia >than debug info. That's your use-case, not mine. Both are debug for me. I never want one without the other. theValue=... is useless if I don't know what method it's in. >Having TRACE in Log4j means: >1) No

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Lutz Michael
This topic is a source of endless debate where I work. We have groups that actually separate "event logging" from "tracing", and support about 5 levels of each. So, instead of just 1 trace level, they use 5 different levels of tracing. I doubt the end of this debate will ever be reached with c

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Jensen, Jeff
Hi Yoav, To separate concerns. Because trace info is a specific level, more minutia than debug info. For example: private SomeClass someMethod(String anArg) { LOG.trace("begin"); SomeClass theValue = null; //do some processing and get theValue //possibly some other LOG.debug(

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >"TRACE" or "FINE" is one that many seem to agree is sensible and required. That's the part I'm not convinced of. How do you support the above? >I think the idea is, no matter how many or few default levels there are, >the defaults should cover the range of the "logging space" completel

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread MarkB
Better question: Why have any level's implemented? Probably because it's useful to have sensible default implementations. "TRACE" or "FINE" is one that many seem to agree is sensible and required. I think the idea is, no matter how many or few default levels there are, the defaults should cover

RE: How discouraged are custom LoggerFactories?

2003-09-22 Thread Mark.Priest
Kevin, I am not sure I understand what you are trying to do. There is no reason to create all loggers at startup. They will automatically be created and cached by the Hierarchy (the default LoggerRepository) when they are first used. You do not need your own Logger Factory for that. I am us

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, Why? Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics >-Original Message- >From: Jensen, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:45 AM >To: Log4J Users List >Subject: RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace" > >I also have wanted a TRACE level suppo

RE: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace"

2003-09-22 Thread Jensen, Jeff
I also have wanted a TRACE level supported in Log4j for quite awhile. I hope it is added soon... -Original Message- From: Dennis Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Plans for supporting a build in level of "trace" I

Customizing HTMLLayout

2003-09-22 Thread Jain, Siddharth (ODC - Satyam)
Hi, I want to add some more columns and want to log the Date and Time, so how can I customize the HTMLLayout, or are there any properties that I can configure in the property files to do that. Thanks Siddharth Jain GTS Web Services Merrill Lynch - Satyam ADC Satyam Technology Centre ---

Alternative contexts for MDC/NDC

2003-09-22 Thread Thomas Muller
Log4j gurus, Does log4j have support for MDC/NDC across other contexts than threads? If not, is it any plans to implement this? For the time being I find my self having to prefix log messages with context sensitive information, and it doesn't really "feel" right at all. Any suggestions for a MDC/