Isn't that what JCP is for? ;-) -Marc
> -----Original Message----- > From: Lutz Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:55 PM > To: 'Log4J Users List' > Subject: RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging > > > > > great point. Hopefully someone at Sun is listening. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Eugelink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:26 PM > To: Log4J Users List > Subject: Re: Log4J vs. java.util.logging > > > Oh, and let me add another opinion to my own mail. I think > that adding more and more functionality to the JVM (what Sun > is doing now) is not a good thing. I prefer a lean mean core > "engine" and addon JARs. Want SSL? Add SSL.jar. Want logging? > Add logging.jar. Want RDBMS? Add JDBC.jar. > > I'd vote for putting energy in a better classloader, one that > is able to handle different versions of the same JAR file in > the classpath (like DotNet... autch). > > Tom > > > > TBEE wrote: > > > Let me, as a log4j user, give my 2 cents. I looked at the > Java 1.4 > logging classes and decided they were inferior to > log4j. Since log4j is > an external JAR, it will not only be > available in JDK1.4 but also in > 1.5, ... and you can > already use them in 1.3. So log4j is the way to go. > > > Tom > > > > Matthias Petersen wrote: > > >> Hi, > >> I saw in the 1.4 JDK that there were new classes > introduced concerning >> logging, which seems to be a base > for Log4J. When I take a look at the >> class hierarchy of > Log4J, it is not a subclass of those JDK logging >> classes > (I think the reason is that Log4J is older than the 1.4 JDK...). > >> > >> So, what will happen with Log4J in the future ? Will it be > a subclass >> of the Java 1.4 logging classes or will it go > in a different direction ? > >> > >> I think that the Log4J classes are much better than the > 1.4 Java >> classes, but what will happen if those Java > classes will become the >> standard for logging ? Or will > Log4J be a part of the JDK somewhere in >> the future ? > >> > >> Your answers are very important for me, because I have to > decide if my >> company is using Log4J or if we need to > enhance the 1.4 JDK logging >> classes. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Matthias > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> Matthias Petersen ms management systems gmbh > >> Krokamp 29 > >> 24539 Neumünster > >> > >> Fon: +49. 4321. 9995-49 > >> Fax: +49. 4321. 9995-41 > >> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > This message and any included attachments are from Siemens > Medical Solutions USA, Inc. and are intended only for the > addressee(s). The information contained herein may include > trade secrets or privileged or otherwise confidential > information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, > copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this message > in error, or have reason to believe you are not authorized to > receive it, please promptly delete this message and notify > the sender by e-mail with a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
