[lojban-beginners] cmevla-final apostrophe

2008-01-16 Thread Vid Sintef
What is the problem of using the apostrophe, which is effectively a consonant, instead of the other consonant letters, at the end of a cmevla? mu'o mi'e vid

[lojban-beginners] Re: cmevla-final apostrophe

2008-01-16 Thread Yoav Nir
I agree. And that's why I would like to understand the rationale for adding the apostrophe before saying whether I'm for it or against it. The apostrophe is not quite as absurd as the comma, because it is pronounced. So {la meri'} would sound different from {la meri}, but close enough to

[lojban-beginners] Re: cmevla-final apostrophe

2008-01-16 Thread Elmo Todurov
Yoav Nir wrote: I have no problem with that, but it's not a regular consonant. I'm all for allowing anything that would better align lojban names with a person's real name (in their native language). But how does the apostrophe help? How would you pronounce it? As Elmo said, why not allow

[lojban-beginners] Re: cmevla-final apostrophe

2008-01-16 Thread Vid Sintef
On Jan 16, 2008 12:57 PM, Elmo Todurov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vid Sintef wrote: What is the problem of using the apostrophe, which is effectively a consonant, It is not. It's special, just like y and . and ,. Yes it is special. But nonetheless it's a consonant pronounced as either /h/ or

[lojban-beginners] Re: preferred words/definitions in jbovlaste

2008-01-16 Thread Yoav Nir
On Jan 17, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Timo Paulssen wrote: Yoav Nir schrieb: coi rodo jbovlaste has a distinction between preferred only valsi and all valsi. There are, for example, 339 preferred works starting with 'c' but 598 words in general that start with 'c'. I have two questions: 1. What

[lojban-beginners] announcements on wiki changes on the wikichanges list!

2008-01-16 Thread Timo Paulssen
Jorge Llambías wrote: I also used to receive an announcement every time someone edited a wiki page, but lately I don't anymore, and I can't find how to change my settings for that either. That was useful to keep up with what was going on on the wiki. There's an extra mailinglist just for

[lojban-beginners] Re: announcements on wiki changes on the wikichanges list!

2008-01-16 Thread Jorge Llambías
2008/1/16 Timo Paulssen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jorge Llambías wrote: I also used to receive an announcement every time someone edited a wiki page, but lately I don't anymore, and I can't find how to change my settings for that either. That was useful to keep up with what was going on on the

[lojban-beginners] Re: Question about jbovlaste

2008-01-16 Thread Yoav Nir
That makes sense. I voted for ckupau (and fixed it a little) and now it's a preferred word. Thanks. On Jan 17, 2008, at 12:12 AM, Adam D. Lopresto wrote: When jbovlaste was created, the lujvo from noralujv were mass imported. However, most of them suck. Hard. Things like: kuncpastu

[lojban-beginners] Re: cmevla-final apostrophe

2008-01-16 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday 16 January 2008 17:58, Alex Martini wrote: Let's pull out the long linguistics words now. Phonotactics: the allowed sound combinations in a given language. For example, English would allow the nonsense word feep and lek, but not pferd or rmla. As a speaker of English, the rules

[lojban-beginners] Re: cmevla-final apostrophe

2008-01-16 Thread Nathaniel Krause
Vid Sintef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the problem of using the apostrophe, which is effectively a consonant, instead of the other consonant letters, at the end of a cmevla? mu'o mi'e vid ' only occurs directly between vowels. A cmevla must always end in a consonant followed by a