On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 4:44 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote:
>> From: Jorge Llambías
>
>> At some point, after CLL and LfB were
>> written, we decided that using "cmene" in English with this specialized
>> meaning was a bad idea, because "cmene" doesn't mean and never meant that in
>> Lojban.
>
> I under
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote:
>
> Of course all {cmevla} are {cmene}, but not all {cmene} are {cmevla}.
I would rather say all cmevla can be used as cmene, but not all cmene
need be or consist of cmevla.
Comparing cmevla and cmene is like comparing apples and desse
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> From: Jorge Llambías
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> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are attacking!
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:53 AM, A. PIEKARSKI <>
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My mistake.
But to clarify, my mistake was not caused by the LFB or CLL.
I assumed that, since {la mlatu} is a word used as a name, that it was
a {cmevla}, since a {cmene valsi} is a name-type-of-word, whereas
{.aionys.}, which is only a name, is merely a {cmene}.
Of course all {cmevla} are {cme
ki'e.ui
Thank you for reminding me about {be} in particular; I think that's probably
a better way to do it, since {mamta} and {patfu} are structured that way
anyway. In retrospect I'd go so far as to say that a possessive construction
here (except perhaps with po'e) is a little {malglico}.
mu'omi
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:53 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote:
>
> No wonder everyone is confused! Exactly where are cmene and cmevla
> definitively defined?
Are you asking about the meanings of the Lojban words, or the meanings
of the English words borrowed from Lojban? The definitions in
jbovlaste seem
No,
> you got it completely reversed. cmevla refers to words than end in
> a
consonant, such as {aionys} and cmene refers to every word that is used as
> a
name (i.o.w. after {la}) such as in {la mlatu}.
Unfortunately lojban
> for beginners confuses the words somewhat.
Actually, neither "L
Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote:
> One thing I want to mention: {la} is not only for cmene. It is the gadri
> used for all cmevla. {la mlatu}, for instance, is a cmevla, whereas
> {la.aionys.} is a cmene.
No, you got it completely reversed. cmevla refers to words than end in a
consonant, such as {aiony
