[lojban-beginners] Re: nursery rhyme

2009-03-05 Thread J Y
ki'e But that seems word-to-word translations, which may be less helpful since the new learners can consult the wordlist > .i le ba zi za'e jbove'a ba la'a se zdile je gleki > (The soon-to-be (new word) jbokids will likely be entertained and happy.) > lojbo verba ? do you mean something like

[lojban-beginners] Re: How to express " though " "even if "

2009-03-02 Thread J Y
>"{da'i}" is also a discursive, and so there is absolutely no reason to precede >it with "{sei}." In fact, in this instance, the "{sei}" also includes the >"{pindi}", resulting in the incomplete statement "I am happy, regardless of [In >fact, one is poor] ..." in which "{gi'u}" has no right operan

[lojban-beginners] How to express " though " "even if "

2009-03-01 Thread J Y
Is it : mi pindi .i ku'i mi gleki mi gleki .i seku'ibo mi pindi mi gleki gi'u sei da'inai pindi mu'o mi'e zo'e

[lojban-beginners] Re: nursery rhyme

2009-03-01 Thread J Y
> > .i klama fa le remna .i klama fe le zdani > .i klama fi le ckule .i ctuca fo le flani > .i klama fo le dargu noi jibni fe le zbani > .i klama fu le karce .i nunkla fa le clani > > .i ro terbri be zo klama zo'u ko jgari pa degji sepo'iku .io .i ku'i ma smuni lu jgari pa degji sepo'iku li'u .i

[lojban-beginners] Re: nursery rhyme

2009-02-27 Thread J Y
>.i tu dunli le krasi lo ka rimni lu tu dunli le krasi be lo ka rimni li'u .i'epei mi'e zo'e

[lojban-beginners] pro-selbri ?

2009-02-24 Thread J Y
{ go'i } repeats the last bridi. Does it only refer to the whole bridi ? Or can it refer to the selbri ? Or to the selbri tanru ? e.g. You said " mi clira klama le zarci fu le karce " and I want to say that you do come early, but not by car; or that you do come by car , but late; or that you do c

[lojban-beginners] Re: pronunciation problems with jy and cy

2009-02-17 Thread J Y
>> .i ma verclibau do? > > what does verclibau mean? And wouldn't it be ".i xu ma verclibau do" as > opposed to ".i ma verclibau do?" ? > " velclibau " , eh ? ve cilre bangu . By which language you learn . Anglais jikau French. " verclibau " must be " verba cilre bangu " .i mi na te smuni ri >l

[lojban-beginners] Re: UI & gismu

2009-02-12 Thread J Y
ba'anai lu velcli befi la lojban befo loi co'a cilre li'u has said that a bridi may have only the selbri, to express an interjection-like-emotion. So zo cinri jo'u zo slabu jo'u li'o in the list could be right without zo se . The list was simply for comparing the two types of lojbanic words, ignori

[lojban-beginners] Re: What is love then

2009-02-12 Thread J Y
> (mibda doesn't mean anything. not sure what you wanted here?) o i think i wanted to mean le mi sevzi > Did you really lose your quality of being able to love, or did you lose that > which you have loved? (lo mi selpa'i) > Well don't forget that benji doesn't imply that sender loses anything

[lojban-beginners] UI & gismu

2009-02-11 Thread J Y
a'ajundi a'ecikna a'i? a'ocpana a'ucinri aijdice audjica e'acurmi e'ekakne e'ito'e zifre e'ocpedu e'ustidi eibilga i'a? i'edarlu i'igubni i'o? i'uslabu iakrici ietugni iiterpa iosinma iunelci o'ajgira o'

[lojban-beginners] What is love then

2009-02-07 Thread J Y
{ nunprami } ? { kamprami } ? .. { nunprami } I don't clear know le terfrica be zo nu bei zo pu'u bei zo li'i For example I have loved my girlfriend for many years , then I would say this is really a , painful love . { xanri lizprami } or { xanri puvprami } or { xanri nunprami } ? I don't see

[lojban-beginners] Original

2009-01-04 Thread J Y
xu zvati fa lo nalxelfanva ke jbobau selfinti ke'e poi ke'a zoi trustworthy to learning from zoi .i pe'i lonu fanva du lonu fanza .i ta'o la'edi'u se cusku u'u lo lazni be lozu'o finti

[lojban-beginners] On mathematics

2008-12-30 Thread J Y
How do we say some simple mathematic expressions like 2+3=5 8-6=2 (2+3)*(8-6)=10 (2+3)*(8-6)/10=1 2+3*8-6=? I try the fourth as { vei li re su'i li ci ve'o pi'i vei li bi vu'u li xa ve'o fe'i li dau ...?... li pa } Is it ok to fill the question mark with { du } ? The other cmavo about maths loo

[lojban-beginners] Re: Could you give some examples

2008-12-27 Thread J Y
> > > lo zarci cu binxo lo briju > > lo zarci cu cenba lo ka kumfa ce'u > > mi galfi lo zarci lo briju > > mi jai stika lo ka lo zarci cu kumfa ce'u > > lo zarci cu zasni lo ka kumfa ce'u kei mi > Oh can you give their meanings ? And i see these selbri have more than one place , such as "condit

[lojban-beginners] Could you give some examples

2008-12-27 Thread J Y
for these selbri : binxo cenba galfi stika zasni ( The last one seems not having the "change" meaning )

[lojban-beginners] Re: About the negators

2008-12-23 Thread J Y
2008/12/16 Jorge LlambĂ­as > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:24 AM, J Y wrote: > > i have just known that {xu} may be attached to a single word in one > > sentence , then i want to know , what about the negator {na} ? > > No, the position of {na} is much more restricted. It can

[lojban-beginners] About the negators

2008-12-15 Thread J Y
i have just known that {xu} may be attached to a single word in one sentence , then i want to know , what about the negator {na} ? And , could you tell me the difference between {na} and {na'e} ? They look the same when using .