[lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words

2007-10-29 Thread Joel Shellman
On 10/29/07, Robert LeChevalier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For words on their own, yes. For modifiers in tanru, virtually anything > is allowed, and there remains considerable debate about modificands, if Ah, ok. That pretty much makes the rest of my comments in that post unuseful. Thanks! > A

[lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words

2007-10-29 Thread Joel Shellman
On 10/29/07, Robert LeChevalier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given the restriction of no unrelated meanings, the metaphoric > > intellectual giant I would expect is impossible in lojban--or perhaps > > what I mean is that it would not be metaphoric. Would you say > > "intellectual man-of-great-ph

[lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words

2007-10-29 Thread Joel Shellman
On 10/29/07, Jorge Llambías <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/29/07, Joel Shellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm curious... are tanru strict in implying that the set must > > be a subset of the modificand? > > Not at all. For example {cinfo kal

[lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words

2007-10-28 Thread Joel Shellman
Please consider my remarks as they are intended: my search for understanding. > http://www.loglan.org/Loglan1/chap3.html#sec3.11 > > But we must now inquire more closely into the meaning of such > > phrases. If X is a short man, does this mean that he is short and a > > man? The "man" part restr

[lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words

2007-10-28 Thread Joel Shellman
On 10/28/07, Jorge Llambías <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In logic terms, a bridi is a _proposition_, the predicate is the selbri. > For example, here is a dictionary defintion of "predicate": > > (Logic) That part of a proposition that is affirmed or denied about the > subject. For example, in

[lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words

2007-10-27 Thread Joel Shellman
> rafsi: affix syllable (like a suffix or prefix) This doesn't tell me much of what it's used for. Are rafsi used for any purpose other than lujvo generation? > tanru: metaphoric modifier-phrase interesting, how is it metaphoric? > bridi: sentence made of arguments connected by a relationship

[lojban-beginners] Quick Reference Guide for language words

2007-10-27 Thread Joel Shellman
Is there a quick reference guide for all the words used to discuss the language? This would really help to have sitting handy while trying to learn lojban. This is what I have so far. If someone has already created this, please let me know. If not, I'll update it here as I learn: http://taotree.w

[lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome

2007-10-26 Thread Joel Shellman
On 10/26/07, Jared Angell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps lojban is such a 'perfect' language in terms of how well thought out > and logical it is on so many levels that it is impossible to speak it on a > broad level with it's current rules. > > If a word such a geodesic dome requires this mu

[lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome

2007-10-26 Thread Joel Shellman
> > Yes, but don't we do this sort of thing all the time: > > > > "So here on our right is a nice geodesic dome. The dome is blah blah. > > When someone goes in the dome blah blah." > > In Lojban, insofar as this is done, we tend to more explicitly use > anaphora (the generalized set of usages that

[lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome

2007-10-26 Thread Joel Shellman
On 10/26/07, Robert LeChevalier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joel Shellman wrote: > > eg. "a spherish stonish-substance building used for residence"--a good > > chance it means monolithic dome home. (though if it's specifically > > sphere-ish and n

[lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome

2007-10-25 Thread Joel Shellman
On 10/25/07, Robert LeChevalier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the predicate place structure of rekyboldi'u? > > > put in rekyboldi'u and it gives: frame-ish-sphere-ish-building(s) > > That is more or less an etymological definition. But what kind of > building is it really? Nuclear contain

[lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome

2007-10-25 Thread Joel Shellman
> > I would think one of the wonderful benefits of lojban is that you can > > do this--create a word that is very precise in what you mean. Granted, > > that would mean an enormous vocabulary, thus my question--can someone > > decompose a word they've never seen before and most likely understand >

[lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome

2007-10-25 Thread Joel Shellman
Some thoughts on this topic (please forgive my newbiness as this is the beginners list :) Each of those definitions (at least the ones that are indeed quite different) could/should have a different word in lojban. So, if your intention is to state a structure made of triangles, use that type of wo

[lojban-beginners] Re: A learning idea..... and my own attempt to do it.

2006-11-30 Thread Joel Shellman
On 11/30/06, Betsemes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 6) Record it using your MP3 player/recorder or your computer. If recorded with a computer then store it in your digital audio player. 6.5) Share your audio file with everyone. I don't know which wiki software the lojban web site uses, but many s