* Benjamin Holzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
True, but there aren't many people who will assume that they can perform
brain surgery just because they successfully applied a band-aid to a paper
cut the week before.
www.trepanation.com ;-) [1]
Greg
[1] i haven't checked the URL so dont
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:21:57AM -0600, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
:) I think you are missing my point here. The plumber who is skilled in a
trade probably thinks you are an idiot when you manage to mangle your own
pipes and have to call him to fix it for you.
Yeah... I always forget to
Alex Page writes:
Yeah... I always forget to flush when forking, and I've done some
horrible things with IPC::Open3 before...
I'm shuddering at the thought of the human equivalent of atomic writes.
"The largest nugget that will pass through a pipe intact ..."
Nat
Aaron Trevena wrote:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
No, there wasn't even something I could buy for it sadly. It's a simple
CGI, I would have paid $15 for a quickie 'here's your simple cgi just plug
in your variables here' code.
Been there - more often than not, the
I came to my attention last night that there is still a small amount of
confusion over the multiple mailing lists. Here is an attempt to
clarify...
The list on hfb.pm.org is now supposed to be defunct. If you are only
subscribed to that, then you should resubscribe to the dircon list by
sending
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:21:57AM -0600, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
:) I think you are missing my point here. The plumber who is skilled in a
trade probably thinks you are an idiot when you manage to mangle your own
pipes and have to call him to fix it for you.
However, I don't question
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 05:43:27AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
I hope that everyone who turned up last night had a good time - I
certainly did (that may, of course, have something to do with the fact
that I was drinking for the first time for a month).
I'd be interested in any opinions that
For all those recovering from the TVRs last night, Piers and I are
going for dimsum at the New World (Gerrard Place, iirc) at 12.30. You
are all invited, but only if you speak softly and don't shine bright
lights...
Leon
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On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:27:17AM +, David Cantrell wrote:
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 05:43:27AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
I hope that everyone who turned up last night had a good time - I
certainly did (that may, of course, have something to do with the fact
that I was drinking for the
At 11:57 02/02/2001 +, Greg wrote:
so all we need is a private room in a pub in central london that does
food
Does EC2 count as central London ?
The White Hart in Clifton Street (near Liverpool Street station) has a
private room that would be big enough.
They do food and as a plus point,
However, I don't question the plumber's competence, or indeed pretend to
anyone including myself that I can do a good job of it. The same should
apply to programming. If I were to try my hand at re-plumbing my kitchen,
know I'd make a god-awful mess, and I am intelligent enough to not
attempt
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 05:43:27AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
I hope that everyone who turned up last night had a good time
Certainly did. Sorry I didn't get to meet many people or stay very long, but Thursday
nights are notoriously busy for me.
I'd be interested in any opinions that people
Alex Page wrote:
It didn't seem too bad - my pints were 2.50 each, which for central London isn't
bad. There were certainly space issues, however.
Hmm. yeah. There was a bit of a mix up - I booked in advance and asked
for seating for 30 people but when I arrived they'd done standing space
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
Any questions?
Yeah, can I have a pony ?
/J\
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However, I don't question the plumber's competence, or
indeed pretend to
anyone including myself that I can do a good job of it.
The same should
apply to programming. If I were to try my hand at
re-plumbing my kitchen,
I know I'd make a god-awful mess, and I am intelligent enough to
* at 02/02 12:29 + Jonathan Stowe said:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
Any questions?
Yeah, can I have a pony ?
what is it with ponys?
struan
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:27:16PM +, Struan Donald wrote:
* at 02/02 12:29 + Jonathan Stowe said:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
Any questions?
Yeah, can I have a pony ?
what is it with ponys?
I've wondered that too.
Seems to be a #perl obsession...
.robin.
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:34:15PM +, Robin Houston wrote:
what is it with ponys?
I've wondered that too.
Seems to be a #perl obsession...
purl pony [12:39]
[purl] pony is replyGimme a Pony! Pony! Pony! Pony Pony Pony! Pony Pony
Robin Houston wrote:
I've wondered that too.
Seems to be a #perl obsession...
As in "stroke the pony"?
Jonathan Peterson wrote:
There is nothing wrong with bad programming.
There is however lots of thinsg wrong with teaching bad pregramming.
Whilst I agree with you to a certain extent about cars a less sinister
explanation is that cars *ARE* getting hideously compilcated with
variable valve
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:25:09PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
No, I disagree. This is like a mechanic saying "You really oughtn't to
change your own oili ...
If the user doesn't know how to check their oil levels, what grade of oil
is needed and so on, then yes, they shouldn't be doing
* at 02/02 12:25 - Jonathan Peterson said:
However, I don't question the plumber's competence, or
indeed pretend to
anyone including myself that I can do a good job of it.
The same should
apply to programming. If I were to try my hand at
re-plumbing my kitchen,
I know I'd
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:47:39PM +, Struan Donald wrote:
you have to teach them some theory of good programming, as at the end
of the day it _will_ make their lives easier.
More importantly, it'll make *our* lives easier :-)
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On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:40:18PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
purl pony
[purl] pony is replyGimme a Pony! Pony! Pony! Pony Pony Pony! Pony
Pony Pony! Pony Pony Pony! Pony Pony Pony! Pony Pony Pony! Pony
Pony Pony! Pony Pony Pony!
robin literal pony pony pony
purl robin: pony pony pony
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Robin Houston wrote:
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:27:16PM +, Struan Donald wrote:
* at 02/02 12:29 + Jonathan Stowe said:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
Any questions?
Yeah, can I have a pony ?
what is it with ponys?
I've wondered
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:25:09PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
No, I disagree. This is like a mechanic saying "You really oughtn't to
change your own oil, oil is very important, if you get it wrong you could
really damage your engine, that sort of thing should be left to a qualified
You could argue that irregular shaped bolts is an effort to
save people
from themselves.
Yah. Like Java saves you from procedural programming :-)
Agreed. However, if "Programming Perl for Dummies" tells you
things that
are Just Plain Wrong - like there's no need for strict, -w or
-T - then
the book does more harm than good.
Agreed. Bad teaching is inexcusable and leads only to harm.
If they keep their bad programming to their
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.fly.net/~shiva/complain.txt
Spamford Wallace.
Those were the days.
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Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com
Apache, mod_perl,
I'm going to find out if we can have the upstairs bar of the Albemarle on
Dover St. It's sufficiently small that we should be able to have it to
ourselves, but sufficiently large that we won't be crowded. They do good
beer and I'm fairly certain they do food in the evenings.
I'm biased -
On 2 Feb 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.fly.net/~shiva/complain.txt
Spamford Wallace.
Those were the days.
On the subject of Ponies - check out this aw350m3 site -
http://members.tripod.com/~ponyland/
/J\
--
Jonathan Stowe
The TVRs were 34 quid each but had about 8 shots of vodka and 8 shots of
tequila in and 6 cans of redbull.
Ok, I've heard of TVR's but yet to see one. Would someone like to give me
an idea as to how many of these things are meant to be consumed by how many
people.
How is it presented?
The
Benjamin Holzman [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:57:20AM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
* Meaning, nobody's really a complete idiot and we'd seem just as dumb
* if we called brain surgery tech support, new mother tech support, or
* even gardening tech support.
*
*True, but
It took me 3 hours to get home :-(
It took me 2 hours (via Wong Kei, BBQ pork noodle soup, Hot Duck with
plum sause).
plum sause).
s/ause/auce/ to work even, not home so its not the same so pretend I
didn't write this.
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:16:06AM -0600, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
Benjamin Holzman [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:57:20AM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
* Meaning, nobody's really a complete idiot and we'd seem just as dumb
* if we called brain surgery tech
Michael Stevens wrote:
(pedantry: There *are* applications where bad programming
could kill. I don't think any of us work in them, but I'm
pretty sure they exist.)
Look at what Sun says Java is not suitable for to get a short list. IIRC
they included stuff such as life support machinery in
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 06:56:02PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
Michael Stevens wrote:
(pedantry: There *are* applications where bad programming
could kill. I don't think any of us work in them, but I'm
pretty sure they exist.)
Look at what Sun says Java is not suitable for to get a
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Greg Cope wrote:
Aaron Trevena wrote:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
No, there wasn't even something I could buy for it sadly. It's a simple
CGI, I would have paid $15 for a quickie 'here's your simple cgi just plug
in your variables here' code.
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:21:57AM -0600, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
:) I think you are missing my point here. The plumber who is skilled in a
trade probably thinks you are an idiot when you manage to mangle your own
pipes and have to call him
There is nothing wrong with bad programming. Sure, don't pay for it, sure
don't use it for anything important or anything that will affect other
people's lives. But lots of people get satisfaction and reward from making
bad programs, just like they get satisfaction from singing badly in the
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