From: Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Anyway, one is an email claiming that a t-shirt will destroy years of
>work getting Perl accepted by American corporations and the other is
a
>widely read Web techniques column by the same author at
>http://www.stonehenge.com/perl/amihooternot
>
>Failing to
-Original Message-
From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 December 2000 17:23
Subject: Re: Donation..
>> Your memory is flawed. Pantos aren't even slightly entertaining.
>
>not even the comic genius jim davidson's adult one?
Warning both of these are VERY crude pantos!
Sinde
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From: James Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Aha, a Jim Davidson connoisseur!
Complement or insult? Taking the lists view i'll go with insult ;)
Its a local thing me thinks, crude comedians with chips on their
shoulders are appreciated here :)
I'm very worried about join
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From: Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>errr .. now this is where I kinda lose the plot .. Active state perl
for
>windoze is a kinda good idea ... it wouls be nicer if you yould just
get
>plain perl to compile and install .. but hey, if ActiveState wanna go
to
>the tr
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From: Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 December 2000 14:04
>I would suggest that anyone capable of installing Linux will have no
>bother at all typing
>$perl -MCPAN - e shell
>how simple can it be?
Agreed with the perl bit but setting up a base Linux box is
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From: David Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Donation [off topic]
>> PPS Has anything been mentioned about the London PM X-mas
food/drink?
>
>We were pretty quorate the other lunchtime at the New World
chinese...
Ah! It wasn't in a pub so I got confused an
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From: Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>More to the point, how do I get makefiles to work on a humble Win98
box?
Short answer is that you don't. Long answer is that you use nmake.exe
(For perl modules, for anything else get an .exe its not worth the
effort.) I can't
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From: David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>All free Unix-a-likes, and most commercial ones, have compilers
either
>as part of the package or as one of the 'must have' packages that
>everyone installs anyway. Your argument might be valid for a few
niche
>platforms for wh
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From: David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 December 2000 15:01
Subject: Re: Fwd: SPUG: ActivePerl 623
>On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 02:35:50PM -, Dean S Wilson wrote:
>
>> PS Is it worth me doing
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From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>if I was someone like redhat or activestate (in conjuction with
redhat
>who have an already established distribution structure), i'd produce
>CD's for each platform (Mac,Win98,Win2K) that with one install
executable
>would inst
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From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>* Roger Burton West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 09:42:26AM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
>> >> my vote the one, the only ... Charlie's Angels
>> >That was a fun film and entertaining but I need more tha
-Original Message-
From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>* Dean S Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> Or on a CD bookshelf, that way they could leverage their back
>> catalogue of stuff like Managing make/imake and bung those on it
for
>
>i never thoug
Don't know how many of you have seen this:
http://www.oreilly.com/survey/perlcd.html
Vote to decide if they should put Mastering Regular Expressions or the
cookbook on the new CD.
Dean
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--- Anon
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From: Natalie Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28 December 2000 18:54
Subject: Re: Perl CD BookShelf 2nd Edition
>The problem being that I think they should include both and there is
noway
>
Original Message-
From: Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> get a policy in place for upgrades, I'd rather pay 10-15 to upgrade
my
>> perl and Unix CD first edition and miss out on the included book
than
>> have to shell out for both of them at full price again. Might send
>> that in to "a
Don't know how many of you have seen this:
http://yetanother.org/damian/diary_January_2001.html#day_4
Made me chuckle.
Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand.
--- Anon
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> XML::Schema
> XML::Schema will rule the world! This is still in the planning
/
> development phase, but it promises to kick bottom really hard.
> Create a schema to describe your data and then sit back and let
> the camel take over. The XML::Schema
-Original Message-
From: Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you've got anything for a
senior
>programmer, with 2-3 years Perl, a bag of unix/sql hammers, and a
(silly)
>module in the CPAN.
Another of the brethren has been liberated! Only Brother Mison re
-Original Message-
From: dcross - David Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Another of the brethren has been liberated! Only Brother Mison
remains
>> to be saved ;)
>Er... no. Paul was... um... 'saved' yesterday as well :(
Well in that case kiss Oven goodbye.
One of the reasons that I jumped
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From: Natalie Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Oops - oven too[1]? Is it something in the water?
Yeah its called Java ;)
Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand.
--- Anon
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From: Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Greg are you trolling? If so let me play ;)
>> the only thing that gives potential for the marketing of a language
is the
>> projects that are achieved using it and java has a hell of a lot
more cool
>> projects than perl
>Wh
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From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Ok, we are not (void) but we are pretty close so here is a one liner
that
>hopefully will provote discussion
I left (void) and you'l not take me back alive! Outlook canne take the
strain!
>the only thing that gives pote
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From: Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
>> the only thing that gives potential for the marketing of a language
is the
>> projects that are achieved using it and java has a hell of a lot
more cool
>> projects tha
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From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Dean S Wilson writes:
>> Has anyone tried Linux glade recently? Is it stable with perl yet?
>The TPJ that's stalled at the printers has a fantuckingfastic article
>on getting started with Glade
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From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Data point: the O'Reilly Perl/Tk book mysteriously jumped in the
>Amazon sales rankings lately. It's been in the 100-300 range the
last
>few weeks.
Toilet paper must be scarce ;)
I dislike the Learning Perl/TK book and I'
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From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Before I launch in a kind of defence of the book, let me remind you
>all that I liked the book before Tim started signing my paycheque.
:-)
Uncross those fingers. ;) Since your in the know what perl books are
forthcoming?
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From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> I was wondering how hard it would be to put together a mini
Application
>> server toolkit.
Hows this for a starting point?
http://www.apachetoolbox.com/
He has porting it to perl
>On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:08:41AM +, alex wrote:
>>
>> In my opinion London would be fine for an August conference.
>>
>> I don't know what the fuss is about, really. London is not like
Paris in
>> the summer. We have a lot more parks.
>>
>> Perhaps September would be better, but hey.
I
-Original Message-
From: Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>(I'll have to remember that pop quizzes are a good way to force the
>lurkers out of hiding :)
Nope its the lure of free alcohol.
Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand.
--- Anon
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From: Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Advice is soreley needed.
Don't work anywhere that Aaron does, he's jinxed. If he worked at
Stonehenge then they'd use EJB's within the week ;)
(Sorry Aaron hehe)
>If I quit now then I have a week's notice period. If I quit aft
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From: Aaron Trevena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I did a little pair programming at emap - I probably wasn't doing it
right
>tho'. even so we did get thru the hard bits quicker and could split
up to
>do the easy stuff. I think it made a difference but then I was mostly
>being
I was having a look at the perl book reviews on Amazon (Yes boycott,
yes they have good reviews) when I came across this
Proceedings of the Perl Conference 4.0
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596000138/qid=980264576/sr=1
-62/202-4272860-9199824
I didn't get to go to that conference so
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From: Robert Shiels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine
running
>samba
>> is the prefered development environment.
>
>Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for
doing X
>stuff.
If you've got a nic
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From: David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Must remember to try IE under WINE.
>
>Don't bother. It doesn't work.
I've seen IE5 running under wine on Debian. The machine did have a 98
partition though so he might have been using the libraries from there,
is that chea
Welcome to the first post of the London Community News.
The LCN is a fortnightly (Or so) e-mail that contains a brief summary
of the London based open source community groups and their activities
for the month ahead and any major open-source events. If you have any
suggestions for the mail or kno
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From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Hey, if she's allowed to plug, so am I :-) The 2nd edition of "CGI
>Programming with Perl" (O'Reilly of course) is pretty bloody good
Duh, its an O'Reilly. ;)
Also L Steins Network Programming with Perl is a good book. I'm
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From: Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>anyone other than Webheads have better things to do than learn CGI.
It
>doesn't make them stupid, in fact, I'd almost argue that they are the
>bright ones.
Amen.
>Which is probably about 95% of the planet. Why should th
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Holzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>True, but there aren't many people who will assume that they can
perform
>brain surgery just because they successfully applied a band-aid to a
paper
>cut the week before.
You haven't been to the NHS recently have you... ;)
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From: Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Anyone got anything to hand that will spot massive duplications in a
>filesystem? I've got a whole bunch of servers mirrored to a backup
>server and it's be nice to identify where entire file trees have been
>replicated...
Y
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From: Jonathan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>What's the best way forward for RPC / distributed Perl stuff? I don't
need
>anything super complicated, but RPC::Simple seems to want to use Tk
?!
XML-RPC and SOAP are both interesting at the mo.
Homepage
http://www.xmlrp
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From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Seriously, we were surprised when another conference announced itself
>over top of our dates, so we're trying to work out how best to deal
with
>that (move, reposition, whatever). Never ever think conferences are
>easy.
I
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From: Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:02:48PM +0100, alex wrote:
>> ps the big killer is that there is no large corporate generating
tons of
>> noise about Perl - whereas this is not the case for Java.
>
>Wait until TPC.
Ahh come on! We ne
-Original Message-
From: Martin Ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> YOu havent been around here very long have you :)
>Indeed, that was just my observation on a few posts' worth. Who
*knows*
>what I might conclude about a whole day's traffic..
Stick with drunks, it'll save time. And the meeti
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From: John Southern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dunno how many of the PMers go to the fairs but this might be of
interest:
>As you all may know SuSE have decided to help out on the Pre-LinuxDay
day.
>Along with GLLUG they will be at the UCL Union building computer show
>( Ma
-Original Message-
From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Of course we could make a cyberpunk movie instead, now let
>me thing about it
Someone please employ Mr Mccarroll. My mail box can't cope with him
having this much spare time. ;)
Dean
--
Profanity is the one language
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From: Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>... Boobapalooza! You boys will be capturing plenty of stills from
>the season-ending shows.
I'd never sink that low. I know how to use google and wget...
>Think Princess Leia only funny and jaw-droppingly gorgeous.
Reno
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From: Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>My motherboard from Dabs has spent two days "awaiting credit card
clearance"
>and two days "awaiting despatch". It *is* in stock, it's just taking
them
>four days - and counting - to get around to shipping it.
If your in London
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From: Jonathan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>At 14:48 17/05/01 +0100, Dean wrote:
>>If your in London then forget mail order and go to TCR on a
Saturday,
>>you get to take home what you pay for and with the drop in spending
>>lately its getting easier to haggle the p
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Barry Pretsell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I'm interested to know if anyone uses
Safari to read O'Reilly books online.
>http://safari1.oreilly.com/tablhom.asp?home
>It sounds like a good idea (must be better
than having 3 editions o
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From: Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Umm, *strokes beard* by archive you mean tar file, right? If so then
>Archive::Tar looks likely, and it even automagically deals with .gz
This does exactly what I wanted, a pint is yours at the next meeting!
>files via Comp
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