Re: vim

2002-11-29 Thread Andy Wardley
Chris Ball wrote: It's an interesting anti-Perl flame war. :) My favourite quote comes from Pudge: A good language allows people to say pshaw and ain't and Barbara Streisand, no matter how unpleasant the words may sound. :-) A

Re: Hello London Perl-Mongers

2002-11-29 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Philip Pereira wrote: Just wanted to say an offical Hello to everyone. Hello ;-). If you've only just subscribed then you might be interested in coming to the next social on the 5th Dec - see http://london.pm.org/meetings/ (though you've probably been lurking and know all

Re: Hello London Perl-Mongers

2002-11-29 Thread Kate L Pugh
On Thu 28 Nov 2002, Philip Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to say an offical Hello to everyone. Hi Philip, welcome to London.pm. Are you in or close to London? If so then you might want to come along to the social meet next Thursday. I'm trying to teach myself Perl - and think

DNS/Email Question

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Reades
I've recently come across a curious issue with email and DNS and I can't determine if it's my company or ISP's DNS that is wonky, or the recipient's. I've been trying to send an email to someone at Barnsley College. But if do an nslookup on barnsley.ac.uk, I get a domain not found (well, it

Re: DNS/Email Question

2002-11-29 Thread Lusercop
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 01:19:55PM +, Jon Reades wrote: I've recently come across a curious issue with email and DNS and I can't determine if it's my company or ISP's DNS that is wonky, or the recipient's. Depending on where the bounce came from, it'll likely be the sending end. I've

Re: DNS/Email Question

2002-11-29 Thread Chris Benson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 01:19:55PM +, Jon Reades wrote: Does anyone have any insight into where the point of failure is? I'm wondering if there's some issue with the fact that our DNS server here is a slave to the NYC office's DNS server, or if, in turn, its US masters are

Re: Hello London Perl-Mongers

2002-11-29 Thread Alex McLintock
At 11:02 29/11/02, Mark Fowler wrote: I assume that you've seen Spreadsheet::WriteExcel and Spreadsheet::WriteExcel::Simple (you can search the online documentation for these modules at http://search.cpan.org/.) These allow you to write native Excel files rather than having to use CSV (nothing

Re: DNS/Email Question

2002-11-29 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:01:00PM +, Chris Benson wrote: So it looks OK (FSVOOK) to me. Not that I trust MS Exchange to do anything. I expect Exchange to act as an open relay. Does that count as trusting it to do something? [it may be that it is not when well configured. It just seems

Re: DNS/Email Question

2002-11-29 Thread S. Joel Bernstein
At 29/11/2002 14:27 [], Nicholas Clark wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:01:00PM +, Chris Benson wrote: So it looks OK (FSVOOK) to me. Not that I trust MS Exchange to do anything. I expect Exchange to act as an open relay. Does that count as trusting it to do something? Nah, Sexchange

RE: DNS/Email Question

2002-11-29 Thread Richard Clyne
Early versions of Exchange 5.5 relayed by default. Newer service packs switch the default to off. The question is really 'What has to happen to get people to install Service Packs and hotfixes in a reasonable time?' -Original Message- From: Nicholas Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

books

2002-11-29 Thread David Cantrell
The following are avaialbe now or over the next month or so if anyone who's not on the naughty list fancies taking a stab at reviewing them. All from O'Reilly, and I've cut out a few I didn't think were particularly relevant: C Pocket Reference http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cpr/ Essential

Re: DNS/Email Question

2002-11-29 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 08:39:08AM -0600, Richard Clyne wrote: The question is really 'What has to happen to get people to install Service Packs and hotfixes in a reasonable time?' Cattle prods. Oh, Netware can still be kicked into open relay mode by selecting an innocent-looking config option,

Re: DNS/Email Question

2002-11-29 Thread Chris Benson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 08:39:08AM -0600, Richard Clyne wrote: Early versions of Exchange 5.5 relayed by default. Newer service packs switch the default to off. The question is really 'What has to happen to get people to install Service Packs and hotfixes in a reasonable time?' format c: /u

IPC::Open3 / isatty puzzler

2002-11-29 Thread Adam Spiers
Grr, why is it that these problems always crop up late on a Friday afternoon just when you should by rights be heading to the pub? I'm using IPC::Open3 (indirectly, via Parallel::Jobs) to fork to a Kerberos rsh process. (Well, actually I've hacked IPC::Open3 to take '-' as the command so that it

Re: books

2002-11-29 Thread Earle Martin
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 03:03:14PM +, David Cantrell wrote: XSLT Cookbook The XSLT Cookbook provides an ideal companion... for developers still figuring out XSLT's template-based approach who want to learn by example Bagsy. -- rare aliment

Re: books

2002-11-29 Thread Ian Brayshaw
David Cantrell wrote: The following are avaialbe now or over the next month or so if anyone who's not on the naughty list fancies taking a stab at reviewing them. All from O'Reilly, and I've cut out a few I didn't think were particularly relevant: snip 802.11 Security

Re: books

2002-11-29 Thread Richard Clamp
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 03:03:14PM +, David Cantrell wrote: The following are avaialbe now or over the next month or so if anyone who's not on the naughty list fancies taking a stab at reviewing them. All from O'Reilly, and I've cut out a few I didn't think were particularly relevant:

Re: books

2002-11-29 Thread Jody Belka
David Cantrell said: The following are avaialbe now or over the next month or so if anyone who's not on the naughty list fancies taking a stab at reviewing them. All from O'Reilly, and I've cut out a few I didn't think were particularly relevant: sendmail 3e

Re: books

2002-11-29 Thread Chris Devers
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, David Cantrell wrote: The following are avaialbe now or over the next month or so if anyone who's not on the naughty list fancies taking a stab at reviewing them. Aye, sir. Apache 3e http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/apache3/ Perl Graphics Programming

Re: books

2002-11-29 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 15:03, David Cantrell wrote: 802.11 Security http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/80211security/ Programming Web Services with Perl http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pwebserperl/ Either or both of these and I promise to be far less lame this time. -- Dave Hodgkinson

Re: Hello London Perl-Mongers

2002-11-29 Thread Philip Pereira
Hey all!! I've had such a nice welcoming ... I think I'll stay! ;) Yes! I have been using the Spreadsheet:WriteExcel module to save me half the work! I recently bought the Camel book to help me on my way with learning! Thanks to all those who have welcomed me to Thursdays meet - I'd have loved

Re: IPC::Open3 / isatty puzzler

2002-11-29 Thread Nick Cleaton
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 06:26:39PM +, Adam Spiers wrote: [SNIP] (can you fake a tty?) If you replace: rsh $host $command with: script /dev/null rsh $host $command In your command line, then rsh will get a pseudo tty. That's with the FreeBSD version of script(1), which allows you

Re: Hello London Perl-Mongers

2002-11-29 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Philip Pereira wrote: I'll keep an eye on the website for details ... but I'm sure you'll post something here too! Yep, we'll announce it. Meetings happen on the day after the first Wednesdays of the month (so normally on the first Thursdays of the month, unless it's the

Re: Voting -- a reminder

2002-11-29 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 05:28:42PM +, Paul Mison wrote: Mark your choices with 1 (first choice), Interesting subliminal move :-) Paul, probably reading too much hypnotherapy stuff recently -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ If my my mum likes

Re: 5.8.0

2002-11-29 Thread Mark Rogaski
--7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An entity claiming to be Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: :=20 : Do you use Perl 5.8.0? Currently migrating our code to 5.8.0 from 5.6.1. This is proving