Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl

2003-01-21 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 23:01, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * the hatter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I will open the bidding with a 486DX2-66 Running Debian 2.2 (still > > > working as a firewall/NAT) > > > > I see your dx2-66, and raise(/lower) you my dx2-50. Curses, if onlyI > > hadn't found that

PGSQL - ALTER TABLE .. ALTER TABLE

2003-01-21 Thread Raf
Hi, I'm using Postgres 7.2.3 and whilst \h ALTER TABLE shows me: ALTER TABLE [ ONLY ] table [ * ] ALTER [ COLUMN ] column { SET DEFAULT value | DROP DEFAULT } I can't seem to do: borg=# ALTER TABLE my_table ALTER COLUMN my_column DROP NOT NULL; ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "NOT" b

[CFT] Now available for interview

2003-01-21 Thread Nigel Wetters
It looks like my firm is going to be making redundancies, and I've been told that I'm going to be among the departees. I've not been too lucky in choosing employers so far, having worked for two failed dot-coms and ITV Digital, but maybe I'll be luckier this time. Please drop me a note <[EMAIL PR

Re: [REVIEW] Test Driven Development by Example

2003-01-21 Thread Piers Cawley
"Dean Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is not a long book and is written in a chatty style that makes it an > easy read. The examples are short, clear and to the point, although i > did get the impression that the author didn't really like Java but was a > Smalltalk fan. This doesn't detr

Re: PGSQL - ALTER TABLE .. ALTER TABLE

2003-01-21 Thread Ali Young
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Raf wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using Postgres 7.2.3 and whilst \h ALTER TABLE shows me: > > ALTER TABLE [ ONLY ] table [ * ] > ALTER [ COLUMN ] column { SET DEFAULT value | DROP DEFAULT } > > I can't seem to do: > > borg=# ALTER TABLE my_table ALTER COLUMN my_column DROP NOT

Re: PGSQL - ALTER TABLE .. ALTER TABLE

2003-01-21 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:43:46AM +, Raf wrote: >borg=# ALTER TABLE my_table ALTER COLUMN my_column DROP NOT NULL; >ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "NOT" >Any ideas? Is it just restricted to dropping defaults? I don't understand what you're trying to do. "DEFAULT" is a characteristic

Re: PGSQL - ALTER TABLE .. ALTER TABLE

2003-01-21 Thread Raf
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Roger Burton West wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:43:46AM +, Raf wrote: > >borg=# ALTER TABLE my_table ALTER COLUMN my_column DROP NOT NULL; > >ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "NOT" > >Any ideas? Is it just restricted to dropping defaults? > > I don't understan

Re: PGSQL - ALTER TABLE .. ALTER TABLE

2003-01-21 Thread Chisel Wright
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:43:46AM +, Raf wrote: > borg=# ALTER TABLE my_table ALTER COLUMN my_column DROP NOT NULL; > ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "NOT" > borg=# > > > Any ideas? Is it just restricted to dropping defaults? What are you trying to do? Delete rows where my_column IS

Re: [REVIEW] Test Driven Development by Example

2003-01-21 Thread Lusercop
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:07:36AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: > Definitely a future classic to my way of thinking. I'm left wondering if that's a good recommendation for anything. :-) -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002

Re: [REVIEW] Test Driven Development by Example

2003-01-21 Thread Dean
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:07:36AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: > Well, it's no surprise that Beck's a Smalltalk fan, he's written one > of the best books about the language that there is (sorry to bang on > about it, but Smalltalk Best Practice Patterns really is a very good > book). Personally I di

Re: [CFT] Now available for interview

2003-01-21 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 09:04, Nigel Wetters wrote: > Weren't we all meant to be millionaires on stock options by now? Ever heard of the 95% club? -- Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Now available for interview

2003-01-21 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 09:04, Nigel Wetters wrote: > It looks like my firm is going to be making redundancies, and I've been > told that I'm going to be among the departees. Oh, and please refrain from using [CFT] in the subject - that's what the *real* CFT mailing list uses :-) -- Dave Hodgkinso

Re: web app stylings

2003-01-21 Thread Andy Wardley
Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > MVC is not necessarily an appropriate metaphor or idiom for web apps. > See abw's rant a while back. Not sure if it was here or on the TT list > but it was a good one. http://tt2.org/pipermail/templates/2002-November/003974.html The distilled essence being that people sho

Re: [REVIEW] Test Driven Development by Example

2003-01-21 Thread James A. Duncan
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 12:19 pm, Dean wrote: Is the Smalltalk Best Practice Patterns general enough that people without smalltalk backgrounds can take something away from it? If so I may end up adding it to my reading list. Absolutely it is. The latter chapters perhaps are more obs

Re: PGSQL - ALTER TABLE .. ALTER TABLE

2003-01-21 Thread Raf
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Ali Young wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Raf wrote: > This should work: > UPDATE pg_attribute SET attnotnull = FALSE > WHERE attname = 'my_column' > AND attrelid = ( SELECT oid FROM pg_class WHERE relname = 'my_table') ; > If anyone is interested: Just discovered that pg_attri

Re: [REVIEW] Test Driven Development by Example

2003-01-21 Thread Dean
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 11:35:52AM +, James A. Duncan wrote: > > Is the Smalltalk Best Practice Patterns general enough that people > > without smalltalk backgrounds can take something away from it? > Absolutely it is. The latter chapters perhaps are more obscurely > applied to other lang

Re: PGSQL - ALTER TABLE .. ALTER TABLE

2003-01-21 Thread Raf
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Chisel Wright wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:43:46AM +, Raf wrote: > > As I understand it you can set the default value for a column, or drop > the default value for a column. "DROP NOT NULL" doesn't seem like a > sensible thing to try to do... You can often have non-

timesheeting systems?

2003-01-21 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
I've got a client in Sweden who wants to offer an online timesheeting system for his clients. He's prepared to do localisation work. This is what he's leaning towards right now: http://www.katipo.co.nz/solutions/products/konae.html Any other LAMP candidates? -- Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Now available for interview

2003-01-21 Thread Shevek
On 21 Jan 2003, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 09:04, Nigel Wetters wrote: > > It looks like my firm is going to be making redundancies, and I've been > > told that I'm going to be among the departees. > > Oh, and please refrain from using [CFT] in the subject - that's what the >

Re: Now available for interview

2003-01-21 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 01:00:53PM +, Shevek wrote: >On 21 Jan 2003, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: >> Oh, and please refrain from using [CFT] in the subject - that's what the >> *real* CFT mailing list uses :-) >Surely this is a task for a proper hierarchical namespace? [london.pm], >[london.pm/cft],

Re: [REVIEW] Test Driven Development by Example

2003-01-21 Thread Kate L Pugh
Dean wrote: >> Is the Smalltalk Best Practice Patterns general enough that people >> without smalltalk backgrounds can take something away from it? On Tue 21 Jan 2003, "James A. Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absolutely it is. The latter chapters perhaps are more obscurely > applied to oth

Re: Run time packages or Making Classes

2003-01-21 Thread Tony Bowden
On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 02:07:06AM +, Shevek wrote: > Sorry, rather tough shit. Class::DBI requires every class with which you > have a relation on sight, ignores errors in require (and makes them > inaccessible and indetectable to the user by performing further requires > to overwrite UNIVERSA

Re: [JOB] Really?

2003-01-21 Thread Tony Bowden
On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 05:39:23PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: > Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/cw_br/JobDetails.asp?JobID=8520593 > Has MySQL even been available for 5 years? Yes. BlackStar launched in March 1998, and was using MySQL. I think I first came a

Re: [CFT] Now available for interview

2003-01-21 Thread Toby|Wintrmute
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:04:31AM +, Nigel Wetters wrote: > Weren't we all meant to be millionaires on stock options by now? ROFL If anyone wants Pracom stocks, I think I've got them in spades - it's probably cheaper than buying toilet paper. (Well, would be, if the stocks were printed..)

Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl

2003-01-21 Thread Alex McLintock
At 22:37 20/01/03, you wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Shevek wrote: > I just gave away a 386/8MHz which ran it. Slackware 4.0. 386/8MHz ? Thee were lucky lad ! When I were a boy I had to make do with an abacus ! Just had a friendly argument with a hitchhikers fan as to whether or not an abacus

RE: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl

2003-01-21 Thread Ivor Williams
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:35 PM, Alex McLintock [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > At 22:37 20/01/03, you wrote: > >On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Shevek wrote: > > > > > I just gave away a 386/8MHz which ran it. Slackware 4.0. > > > >386/8MHz ? Thee were lucky lad ! > > > >When I were a boy I had to

Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl

2003-01-21 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:35:06PM +, Alex McLintock wrote: > Just had a friendly argument with a hitchhikers fan as to whether or not an > abacus was > a digital or analogue computer. Digital, clearly, as it can not represent values over a continuous range, only discrete values across that r

Re: timesheeting systems?

2003-01-21 Thread Robert Shiels
From: "Dave Hodgkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've got a client in Sweden who wants to offer an online timesheeting > system for his clients. He's prepared to do localisation work. This is > what he's leaning towards right now: > > http://www.katipo.co.nz/solutions/products/konae.html > Well, it'

Re: [OT] Oldest machine still running perl

2003-01-21 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:35:06PM +, Alex McLintock wrote: >> Just had a friendly argument with a hitchhikers fan as to whether or not an >> abacus was >> a digital or analogue computer. > > Digital, clearly, as it can not represent values over a

Re: [REVIEW] Test Driven Development by Example

2003-01-21 Thread Piers Cawley
"James A. Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 12:19 pm, Dean wrote: >> Is the Smalltalk Best Practice Patterns general enough that people >> without >> smalltalk backgrounds can take something away from it? If so I may >> end up >> adding it to my reading list.

Re: [CFT] Now available for interview

2003-01-21 Thread Piers Cawley
Toby|Wintrmute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:04:31AM +, Nigel Wetters wrote: >> Weren't we all meant to be millionaires on stock options by now? > > ROFL > > If anyone wants Pracom stocks, I think I've got them in spades - it's > probably cheaper than buying toilet

Re: timesheeting systems?

2003-01-21 Thread Steve Keay
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 06:09:32PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > > http://www.stratlink.com/timesheet/ Ahhh, quoting. The only time this happens in perl nowadays is the infamouuus "\@", right? You need a valid username/password to proceed. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you think this sho