Re: Techmeet slides - legacy slides/Ivor Williams

2009-04-22 Thread James Laver
On 22 Apr 2009, at 15:04, Chris Jack wrote: I too noticed some of the links were broken to London Perl Monger talks - in particular some of the talks Ivor Williams gave. Some of these seem to have moved to http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ivorw/slides and also http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ivorw/sl

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Anthony Fisher
L?on Brocard wrote: > Alias ranted: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/38842 > > Which Perl website do you think looks the worst? Which has the worst > navigation? > > We managed to redesign london.pm.org. Is it time to do another? Some aspects of good/bad design are fairly universal, but I t

RE: Techmeet slides - legacy slides/Ivor Williams

2009-04-22 Thread Chris Jack
> James Laver james.la...@gmail.com wrote: > As L?on has just posted to the list, slides from the last techmeet are > now available in PDF format from the london.pm website. > It would be really nice if we could dig up as many past slides as > possible and host them on london.pm.or

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 01:38:49PM +0200, Abigail wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:20:03PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: > > http://www.digitalcraftsmen.net/perl.org/slice.png > IMO. No. Not by a long shot. It's screamy, it hurts your eyes, > and doesn't invite you at all to stay long enough to ev

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Edmund von der Burg
2009/4/22 Simon Wilcox : > My point was DO or DO NOT there is no "let's all bitch and moan on a mailing > list, get ourselves in a tizzy and do naff all about it". Well said. Also - let's be really clear on one thing: proper design is VERY hard. This means that when someone has a go and tries to

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 22/4/09 13:16, Dirk Koopman wrote: Simon Wilcox wrote: http://combust.develooper.com/ I don't suppose combust can be persuaded to work as an FCGI device instead of an antediluvian mod_perl thingy? Dunno. Send patches if you get it working :-) S.

Techmeet slides - legacy slides

2009-04-22 Thread James Laver
As Léon has just posted to the list, slides from the last techmeet are now available in PDF format from the london.pm website. It would be really nice if we could dig up as many past slides as possible and host them on london.pm.org. A lot of links to slides on other sites are now dead, whi

Re: London.pm technical meeting about "Less code" on 16th April 2009

2009-04-22 Thread Léon Brocard
2009/4/1 Léon Brocard : > The next technical meeting will be on the 17th April 2009 from 7pm to > 9pm (you may arrive from 6.30pm, sign in at the reception) and the > theme is "Less code". You have to sign up to attend, see the website. Thanks to all the speakers, it rocked! Slides are available

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 22/4/09 12:38, Abigail wrote: IMO. No. [snip] Sorry, that was a rhetorical question. I wasn't meaning to open it up for a discussion. My point was DO or DO NOT there is no "let's all bitch and moan on a mailing list, get ourselves in a tizzy and do naff all about it". Yes the colour is

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Dirk Koopman
Simon Wilcox wrote: http://combust.develooper.com/ I don't suppose combust can be persuaded to work as an FCGI device instead of an antediluvian mod_perl thingy?

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Abigail wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:20:03PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: >> On 22/4/09 11:09, Sue Spence wrote: >>> 2009/4/22 Léon Brocard : Alias ranted: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/38842 Which Perl website do you think looks the worst

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Denny
On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 13:38 +0200, Abigail wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:20:03PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: > > BTDT. Is this any better ? > > > > http://www.digitalcraftsmen.net/perl.org/slice.png > > IMO. No. Not by a long shot. It's screamy, it hurts your eyes, > and doesn't invite you a

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Abigail
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:20:03PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: > On 22/4/09 11:09, Sue Spence wrote: >> 2009/4/22 Léon Brocard : >>> Alias ranted: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/38842 >>> >>> Which Perl website do you think looks the worst? Which has the worst >>> navigation? >>> >>> We managed

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 22/4/09 11:09, Sue Spence wrote: 2009/4/22 Léon Brocard : Alias ranted: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/38842 Which Perl website do you think looks the worst? Which has the worst navigation? We managed to redesign london.pm.org. Is it time to do another? perl.org - hello, 1996 BTDT

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Abigail
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 07:53:31AM +0100, Léon Brocard wrote: > Alias ranted: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/38842 > > Which Perl website do you think looks the worst? Which has the worst > navigation? > > We managed to redesign london.pm.org. Is it time to do another? Of all the websites

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Sue Spence
2009/4/22 Léon Brocard : > Alias ranted: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/38842 > > Which Perl website do you think looks the worst? Which has the worst > navigation? > > We managed to redesign london.pm.org. Is it time to do another? > perl.org - hello, 1996

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Tom Hukins
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 07:53:31AM +0100, Léon Brocard wrote: > Which Perl website do you think looks the worst? Which has the worst > navigation? It's as much about the content as its presentation, but I have a certain fondness for a particular entry in the CPAN FAQ: http://cpan.org/misc/cpan-faq

Re: Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 22/4/09 07:53, Léon Brocard wrote: Alias ranted: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/38842 Which Perl website do you think looks the worst? Which has the worst navigation? We managed to redesign london.pm.org. Is it time to do another? They're all a bit shit for the most part. Last time we

Beautiful is better than ugly

2009-04-22 Thread Léon Brocard
Alias ranted: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/38842 Which Perl website do you think looks the worst? Which has the worst navigation? We managed to redesign london.pm.org. Is it time to do another? Leon