Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Andrew Beattie
This is a long way off topic but I'm hoping that someone here might be able to share a clue... I need to measure the power used on dozens and dozens of servers. I need a breakdown by server, not a total for the room. (more specifically, I want to calculate the power cost per server per year).

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Mark Blackman
On 29 Apr 2009, at 09:42, Andrew Beattie wrote: So, I got a clamp meter. But contrary to my expectation, that only works if I can separate the individual wires in the power cable - not an option. So, I'm stuck. Is there any non-intrusive way to measure the power consumption of my serv

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Michael Lush
A frend of mine has a Power Owl http://www.greenstamp.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/33/products_id/68?gclid=COmqvdzclZoCFR4hnAodx3XzNw You clip the sensor round the mains power were it comes in to the electricity meter. I guess you could clip it round the server power cable I'd be inclined

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Adrian Lai
2009/4/29 Andrew Beattie : > This is a long way off topic but I'm hoping that someone here might be able > to share a clue... > > I need to measure the power used on dozens and dozens of servers. > > I need a breakdown by server, not a total for the room. > > (more specifically, I want to calculate

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Paul Makepeace
I'd second the option of getting a similar machine and comparing that. The power usage doesn't vary much more than about 20% against CPU load in my experience, unfortunately. If you're feeling brave you can separate the live wire from the rest _reasonably_ safely. The trick is using a very sharp k

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Benson
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:05:01AM +0100, Michael Lush wrote: > > > A frend of mine has a Power Owl > > http://www.greenstamp.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/33/products_id/68?gclid=COmqvdzclZoCFR4hnAodx3XzNw > > You clip the sensor round the mains power were it comes in to the > electricity meter.

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Jasper
2009/4/29 Paul Makepeace : > > If you're feeling brave you can separate the live wire from the rest > _reasonably_ safely. The trick is using a very sharp knife and bending the > cable and nicking the outer sheath at the outside 'edge' of the curve. What > tends to happen is the sheath tears and w

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 29/4/09 10:05, Michael Lush wrote: A frend of mine has a Power Owl http://www.greenstamp.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/33/products_id/68?gclid=COmqvdzclZoCFR4hnAodx3XzNw This works because the conductors come into the meter separately. It has the same issues as all clamp meters. S.

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Jasper wrote: > 2009/4/29 Paul Makepeace : > > > > > If you're feeling brave you can separate the live wire from the rest > > _reasonably_ safely. The trick is using a very sharp knife and bending > the > > cable and nicking the outer sheath at the outside 'edge'

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Nick Cleaton
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 09:42 +0100, Andrew Beattie wrote: > This is a long way off topic but I'm hoping that someone here might be > able to share a clue... > > I need to measure the power used on dozens and dozens of servers. > > I need a breakdown by server, not a total for the room. > > (more

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Jasper
2009/4/29 Nick Cleaton : > > One possibility might be to measure the heat output of the servers, > rather than the electricity input. If you assume that the servers lose > heat mainly by pumping hot air out with fans, you'd need to measure both > the air flow rate and the difference between outpu

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Nick Cleaton
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 12:23 +0100, Jasper wrote: > 2009/4/29 Nick Cleaton : > > > > > One possibility might be to measure the heat output of the servers, > > rather than the electricity input. If you assume that the servers lose > > heat mainly by pumping hot air out with fans, you'd need to meas

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:42:55AM +0100, Andrew Beattie wrote: > I can't go round, yanking out cables and inserting in-line meters. > So, I got a clamp meter. But contrary to my expectation, that only > works if I can separate the individual wires in the power cable - not an > option. > So, I'

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Jasper
2009/4/29 Nick Cleaton : > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 12:23 +0100, Jasper wrote: >> 2009/4/29 Nick Cleaton : >> >> > >> > One possibility might be to measure the heat output of the servers, >> > rather than the electricity input. If you assume that the servers lose >> > heat mainly by pumping hot air o

Re: Measuring power

2009-04-29 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:53:30AM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: > I got a few inline power meters from Maplins when they were on > offer at 9.99 http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=38343 > (But they're now 22.99!) Ah, the current "deal" is > http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=223