Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread gbjk
I've been looking for a datahand pro II. http://www.datahand.com/products/proii.htm Datahand haven't had any stock since January, and are still trying to source a manufacturer for a new batch. Does anyone on this list have one which they'd consider selling? gbjk

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread James Laver
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:37 AM, gbjk g...@thermeon.com wrote: I've been looking for a datahand pro II. http://www.datahand.com/products/proii.htm Datahand haven't had any stock since January, and are still trying to source a manufacturer for a new batch. Does anyone on this list have one

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Gareth Kirwan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:12 +0100, James Laver wrote: What is it about the Datahand that you're interested in? RSI avoidance? Or do you think it will increase your typing speed? If it's the RSI avoidance, there are a number of other recommendable keyboards. Or for the typing speed thing,

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread James Laver
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Gareth Kirwan g...@thermeon.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:12 +0100, James Laver wrote: What is it about the Datahand that you're interested in? RSI avoidance? Or do you think it will increase your typing speed? If it's the RSI avoidance, there are a

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Steff Davies
James Laver wrote: I'm a huge fan of Model M series, to the point I had a unicomp expensively shipped in from the US, and what a fantastic keyboard. It encourages you to type properly because it's actually a real keyboard (particular hate focused at apple here, the latest apple keyboards (one

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Gareth Kirwan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:44 +0100, James Laver wrote: I would just get a unicomp. It's shaped like a keyboard, it feels like a very good keyboard (springs, they bounce back at your fingers!) and my typing speed is improved using one overall. Of course you'll want to keep a correct typing

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Jasper
2009/10/20 Gareth Kirwan g...@thermeon.com: My keyboard usage is very strict, and I've gotten more rigid with certain things. The most important of those for me is to try and minimise wrist movement, and to avoid using fingers when the wrists are turned. One particular offend of this is using

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Gareth Kirwan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 11:43 +0100, Jasper wrote: It sounds to me like you just need to stop deviating your wrists and force yourself to use your arm. A pair of those spiffy bowling glove things would be just the trick. (There is a good Get Fuzzy strip about this, but I can't find it) Whilst

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread James Laver
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Gareth Kirwan g...@thermeon.com wrote: Nobody's replied with anything positive about datahands (or alternatives other to keyboards), but rather instead try this keyboard or do this to avoid rsi issues. Worthwhile, useful and appreciated comments, but IMO

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Chris Jack
David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: ...and then we shall tell Buffy and Willow that they are forbidden from taking their ponies to deliver beer ... I don't remember seeing an email about this. Can I please get myself added to the distribution list. Thanks Chris

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Bob Walker
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Gareth Kirwan wrote: Nobody's replied with anything positive about datahands (or alternatives other to keyboards), but rather instead try this keyboard or do this to avoid rsi issues. Worthwhile, useful and appreciated comments, but IMO they're trying to avoid addressing a

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Philip Newton
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:43, Jasper jaspermcc...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft have always made good keyboards and mices. I've heard good things about their hardware (well, input devices, at any rate -- the context didn't include consoles) in general. Perhaps one should distinguish between

Volunteer Wanted for Catalyst project

2009-10-20 Thread Barbie
Hi, I have recently been approached to take over and refactor a Perl based site. However, my time is limited these days, so I don't have the time to really do it justice. So I wondered whether anyone here would be interested in taking it on. The site is a rock music magazine site, though is

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread jesse
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 02:27:44PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:43, Jasper jaspermcc...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft have always made good keyboards and mices. I've heard good things about their hardware (well, input devices, at any rate -- the context didn't

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread gbjk
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 09:09 -0400, jesse wrote: I love my Microsoft Natural Elite keyboard (the newer ones, IMO, have _much_ worse hardware) to death. Actually, I love it to death about twice a year. You see, the traces on the keyboard are water soluable. These things were _not_ built to last.

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:37 AM, gbjk g...@thermeon.com wrote: I've been looking for a datahand pro II. http://www.datahand.com/products/proii.htm I don't have one of those but I do have a Kinesis Advantage, http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm There are a few nice features: keys are

Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread James Laver
On 21 Oct 2009, at 01:24, Paul Makepeace wrote: PS for the real layout nerds, http://colemak.com/ is a better choice than Dvorak if you're going to start from scratch http://www.kaufmann.no/roland/dvorak/ is worth a mention too. I got myself up to about one-quarter-speed on that last time I