Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Edwards
On 23 August 2011 18:11, Leo Lapworth wrote: > Installing / using / extending Domm's App::Timetracker ( > https://metacpan.org/release/App-TimeTracker) might make an interesting > article. > > He gave a talk about it at YAPC::EU > http://yapceurope.lv/ye2011/talk/3391(slides: > http://domm.plix.a

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Leo Lapworth
On 23/08/2011 19:39, Dave Cross wrote: > >> > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a > 3000 > >> > word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl > had > >> > moved on in the last ten years, what would you do? What would you write > > about? >

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Dave Cross
Quoting Leo Lapworth : On 23 August 2011 13:02, Simon Cozens wrote: On 23/08/2011 19:39, Dave Cross wrote: > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 > word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl had > moved on in the last ten yea

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Mark Fowler
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Salve J Nilsen wrote: > I'd perhaps say that TIMTOWTDI has resulted in years of experimenting and > trying and failing and learning, leading to a CPAN and a Perl community that > is better and stronger than ever. John Siracusa makes some good points along these l

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Leo Lapworth
On 23 August 2011 13:02, Simon Cozens wrote: > On 23/08/2011 19:39, Dave Cross wrote: > > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 > word > > article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl had > moved > > on in the last ten years, what would yo

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 03:25:25PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > And most distros are far better at tracking newer versions of > interesting CPAN modules these days. So I can't really see it being a > problem. I'm not sure they do a good job of tracking *interesting* modules. They might track f

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:59:42PM +0200, Job van Achterberg wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 11:39 +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > So, purely hypothetically... > > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a > > 3000 word article giving a practical project-based demonstration

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Salve J Nilsen
Dave Cross said: So, purely hypothetically... If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl had moved on in the last ten years, what would you do? What would you write about? I'd perhaps s

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Steve Mynott
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:39:57AM +0100, Dave Cross typed: > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a > 3000 word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of > how Perl had moved on in the last ten years, what would you do? What > would you write about?

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Sent from my iPhone On 23 Aug 2011, at 15:25, Dave Cross wrote: > Quoting Smylers : > >> Pete Smith writes: >> >>> using distro packages (cpan probably frustrates newbies to perl if >>> installation / tests fail) ... >> >> I'd say the opposite, that cpanm is one of the major highlights of >

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Dave Cross
Quoting Smylers : Pete Smith writes: using distro packages (cpan probably frustrates newbies to perl if installation / tests fail) ... I'd say the opposite, that cpanm is one of the major highlights of recent developments in Perl. Somebody who's previously been frustrated by installing Cpan

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 13:59, Pete Smith wrote: > Hey, don't take it so literally. My point was that being easy to get up and > running is what made RoR so popular. As it did PHP before that...

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Mark Fowler
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Dave Cross wrote: > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 > word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl had > moved on in the last ten years, what would you do? I'd sit down and re-read Modern Perl

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Dermot
> If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 > word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl had > moved on in the last ten years, what would you do? What would you write > about? I was really impressed by the AutoCRUD but as someone's point

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Pete Smith
On 23/08/11 12:45, Abigail wrote: So, the point of the assignment (which is to show how Perl has moved on in the last 10 years) is going to be "after 10 years, we now can do what Ruby on Rails can"? Hey, don't take it so literally. My point was that being easy to get up and running is what mad

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Zbigniew Łukasiak
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Simon Cozens wrote: > On 23/08/2011 19:39, Dave Cross wrote: > > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 > word > > article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl had > moved > > on in the last ten years, what w

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
So there's three articles: 1. Mashups using CPAN modules 2. Modern perl, Moose, DBIC 3. Cool scaffold On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:27, Smylers wrote: > Pete Smith writes: > >> using distro packages (cpan probably frustrates newbies to perl if >> installation / tests fail) ... > > I'd say the opposit

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Smylers
Pete Smith writes: > using distro packages (cpan probably frustrates newbies to perl if > installation / tests fail) ... I'd say the opposite, that cpanm is one of the major highlights of recent developments in Perl. Somebody who's previously been frustrated by installing Cpan modules can be impr

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Matt Freake
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Jason Clifford wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 11:39 +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > So, purely hypothetically... > > > > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a > > 3000 word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of > >

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Corlett
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:39:57AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: [...] > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 > word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl > had moved on in the last ten years, what would you do? What would you > write abo

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Simon Cozens
On 23/08/2011 19:39, Dave Cross wrote: > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 word > article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl had moved > on in the last ten years, what would you do? What would you write about? What's changed in the pa

RE: Getting cpan's Oracle DBD to work properly on i386 is proving

2011-08-23 Thread Chris Jack
Paul Branon paulbra...@googlemail.com wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get help getting oracle DBD to work? I'm on > Intel Solaris 10 > and Oracle comes with an AMD64 binary. It runs fine on my system. I can > connect to oracle > with no problems at all. Then I install oracle DBD which insta

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Jason Clifford
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 11:39 +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > So, purely hypothetically... > > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a > 3000 word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of > how Perl had moved on in the last ten years, what would you do? W

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Abigail
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:24:05PM +0100, Pete Smith top-posted: > I think that devs are interested in tools that let them get things up > and running with little effort, so perhaps an article explaining how > easy it is to use catalyst/dancer/mojo + dbic + plack (with a bit of > moose thrown

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Marco Fontani
> I agree. Show how to write a web service running on Dotcloud using Dancer . Making use of modules from CPAN, which make it even easier to get stuff done? Sawyer created a small presentation after a "joke" site I created, to showcase that exact thing: http://www.slideshare.net/xSawyer/your-firs

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Edwards
On 23 August 2011 12:24, Pete Smith wrote: > I think that devs are interested in tools that let them get things up and > running with little effort, so perhaps an article explaining how easy it is > to use catalyst/dancer/mojo + dbic + plack (with a bit of moose thrown in) > using distro packages

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Pete Smith
I think that devs are interested in tools that let them get things up and running with little effort, so perhaps an article explaining how easy it is to use catalyst/dancer/mojo + dbic + plack (with a bit of moose thrown in) using distro packages (cpan probably frustrates newbies to perl if ins

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Abigail
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:57:49AM +0100, Peter Sergeant wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Dave Cross wrote: > > > So, purely hypothetically... > > > > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 > > word article giving a practical project-based demonstratio

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Job van Achterberg
Developments in Moose, modern web frameworks, influences of Perl 6? On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 11:39 +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > So, purely hypothetically... > > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a > 3000 word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of

Re: Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Sergeant
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Dave Cross wrote: > > So, purely hypothetically... > > If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 > word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl had > moved on in the last ten years, what would you do? Wha

Writing About Perl

2011-08-23 Thread Dave Cross
So, purely hypothetically... If a popular Linux magazine had given you the opportunity to write a 3000 word article giving a practical project-based demonstration of how Perl had moved on in the last ten years, what would you do? What would you write about? Cheers, Dave...

Re: Emergency Social - brian d foy

2011-08-23 Thread Dave Cross
Quoting "David H. Adler" : On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 08:09:47AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: This is tonight. Lovely day to go to the Founders Arms :-/ I wish I could be there. Enjoy! There was a tiny amount of sarcasm in what I wrote. It was pissing down as I wrote it. Hoping it dries out a b

Re: Getting cpan's Oracle DBD to work properly on i386 is proving a bit tricky

2011-08-23 Thread Simon Matthews
* Chris Benson (chr...@ccandc.org) [110822 21:29]: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 05:17:07PM +0100, Paul Branon wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > Does anyone know where I can get help getting oracle DBD to work? I'm on > > Intel Solaris 10 > > and Oracle comes with an AMD64 binary. It runs fine on my system.

Re: Emergency Social - brian d foy

2011-08-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 08:09:47AM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > This is tonight. Lovely day to go to the Founders Arms :-/ I wish I could be there. Enjoy! dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a red headed gi

Re: Emergency Social - brian d foy

2011-08-23 Thread Dave Cross
This is tonight. Lovely day to go to the Founders Arms :-/ See you there. On 08/19/2011 08:05 AM, Dave Cross wrote: Perl writer, trainer and all-round nice guy, brian d foy is passing through London next Tuesday (23rd Aug). I'll be meeting him for a drink or three at the Founders Arms[1] at a