Re: Which modules do you "allow" yourself to use for production?

2013-07-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Don't use system Perl. Brew your own and make it part of the app. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jul 2013, at 23:04, Pierre M wrote: > Thank you, all. That's very good advice. > > Yup, the main thing is to make money before it runs out. Abigail, your > comments to Ovid's blog post (about testing) w

Re: Which modules do you "allow" yourself to use for production?

2013-07-22 Thread Pierre M
Thank you, all. That's very good advice. Yup, the main thing is to make money before it runs out. Abigail, your comments to Ovid's blog post (about testing) were just what i needed to read at the time, on this subject. Summary of the ideas so far: - it depends on the size of the project - don't r

Re: new Perl project / startup - Need advice

2013-07-22 Thread Avishalom Shalit
neal stephenson's Cryptonomicon, starts with a story about a tech guy who implemented some other guy's idea for a part in the company and ends up (not spoiling) getting screwed . it is a very enjoyable book . i found it also very entertaining because it rang so true, i personally know 2 people ,

Re: Which modules do you "allow" yourself to use for production?

2013-07-22 Thread Dirk Koopman
On 22/07/13 19:45, Pierre M wrote: As i was asking for advice in a previous email, Dirk Koopman wrote: "Use the lowest impact perl from the beginning (that probably means avoiding Moose, Catapole et al)." I understand that this means: "avoid modules with lots of dependencies". Is that right? I t

Re: Which modules do you "allow" yourself to use for production?

2013-07-22 Thread Abigail
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 07:45:28PM +0100, Pierre M wrote: > As i was asking for advice in a previous email, Dirk Koopman wrote: > "Use the lowest impact perl from the beginning (that probably means > avoiding Moose, Catapole et al)." > > I understand that this means: "avoid modules with lots of de

Re: Which modules do you "allow" yourself to use for production?

2013-07-22 Thread Leo Lapworth
On 22 July 2013 19:45, Pierre M wrote: > As i was asking for advice in a previous email, Dirk Koopman wrote: > "Use the lowest impact perl from the beginning (that probably means > avoiding Moose, Catapole et al)." > > I understand that this means: "avoid modules with lots of dependencies". Is > t

Re: Installing WWW::Webkit on Debian/Mint

2013-07-22 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 17:35 +, dave.lamb...@gmail.com wrote: > I have had good results in the past on resistive websites with > WWW::Selenium. Thanks. That will be my fallback if the website is more complicated than I originally thought (it's several years old, so hoping it doesn't have much/a

Re: new Perl project / startup - Need advice

2013-07-22 Thread Bob MacCallum
I'm doing a kind of moonlighty startup thingy - my collaborators are not Perl people and I decided to make a (Dancer/DBIx::Class:Schema powered) web API to do all the heavy lifting - they will do all the user interface and production scalability stuff. Fingers crossed it works - has to be done by

Re: Installing WWW::Webkit on Debian/Mint

2013-07-22 Thread Andrew Beverley
> Otherwise WWW::Mechanize. Wow, thanks for that, that was easy. Works well on a test website, just need to try on said clunky HR system tomorrow :)

Re: Which modules do you "allow" yourself to use for production?

2013-07-22 Thread Jason Clifford
On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 19:45 +0100, Pierre M wrote: > As i was asking for advice in a previous email, Dirk Koopman wrote: > "Use the lowest impact perl from the beginning (that probably means > avoiding Moose, Catapole et al)." Surely you need to have an idea of the scale of the project before maki

Which modules do you "allow" yourself to use for production?

2013-07-22 Thread Pierre M
As i was asking for advice in a previous email, Dirk Koopman wrote: "Use the lowest impact perl from the beginning (that probably means avoiding Moose, Catapole et al)." I understand that this means: "avoid modules with lots of dependencies". Is that right? I thought Moose only slowed things down

Re: new Perl project / startup - Need advice

2013-07-22 Thread Pierre M
Oh, it's nice to feel supported. Individual answers follow. @Dave: Great, thank you! I'm sending you a personal email. @Ash: i'll keep your contact if i have further questions or doubts. It's nice to have several possible persons to speak with. @Mark: thanks for the links. @Dinis: i've read one

Re: Installing WWW::Webkit on Debian/Mint

2013-07-22 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
If said clunky HR website requires javascript, WWW::Selenium or WWW::Mechanize::Firefox. Otherwise WWW::Mechanize. (Other things may work too, but those are what I have had success with.)

Re: Installing WWW::Webkit on Debian/Mint

2013-07-22 Thread dave . lambley
I have had good results in the past on resistive websites with WWW::Selenium. It was straightforward to get running under Ubuntu, but does require a full browser and an x server. I hear phantom.js is good, and has a Perl wrapper. -- Sent using from a tiny keypad. -Original Message- Fro

Installing WWW::Webkit on Debian/Mint

2013-07-22 Thread Andrew Beverley
Hi, Quick question: has anybody had any success installing WWW::Webkit on Debian (v7.1) or Linux Mint (v12)? I won't list all the problems that I am having just now (suffice to say they are various recursive dependency failures that I don't want to spend lots of time on). I'm more interested to k

Re: new Perl project / startup - Need advice

2013-07-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
More than happy to talk IRL. I'm in Hoxditch or Camden. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Dinis Rebolo wrote: > Hi Peirre, have you read the blogs Ovid has about startups? > > http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2013/07/perl-startups-lacuna-expanse.html > http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2013/07/pe

Re: new Perl project / startup - Need advice

2013-07-22 Thread Dinis Rebolo
Hi Peirre, have you read the blogs Ovid has about startups? http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2013/07/perl-startups-lacuna-expanse.html http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2013/07/perl-startups-lokkunestoria.html Good luck with your new project. drebolo On 22 July 2013 15:39, Pierre M wrote: > Hi

Re: new Perl project / startup - Need advice

2013-07-22 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Or at the tech meet :) On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > More than happy to talk IRL. I'm in Hoxditch or Camden. > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Dinis Rebolo wrote: > >> Hi Peirre, have you read the blogs Ovid has about startups? >> >> http://blogs.perl.org/users/

Re: new Perl project / startup - Need advice

2013-07-22 Thread Mark Stringer
These guys seem to have some useful events. Haven't been myself, but my business partner pops along and has made a number of useful contacts: http://www.3-beards.com/ We'll both be along at the Digital Sizzle 10 thing in a month's time. HTH Mark On 07/22/2013 03:39 PM, Pierre M wrote: Hi Mo

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 2013-07-25

2013-07-22 Thread Leon Brocard
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:09:01AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > London Perl Mongers organises technical meetings every two months. The > technical meetings are a chance to find out what has been going on in > the Perl community, what techniques people are using and how Perl > integrates with other

new Perl project / startup - Need advice

2013-07-22 Thread Pierre M
Hi Mongers, we're starting a project in autumn with a non-programmer friend. He's got the ideas, the clients-base and the money. I have the time, a pretty clear idea of what he wants, and the mathematical + programming skills. I'm thinking of using Dancer2. I'd like to speak with someone who has s