Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Hack Day, Saturday 20th September 2014

2014-07-25 Thread Schmoo
Joel in being Joel shocker :p Though there's a fair point in there somewhere, I'm sure... On 25 Jul 2014 18:28, "Sue Spence" wrote: > On 25 July 2014 17:59, Joel Bernstein wrote: > > > On 25 July 2014 18:22, Tom Hukins wrote: > > > > > We invite anyone who would like to work on anything > > > P

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Hack Day, Saturday 20th September 2014

2014-07-25 Thread Sue Spence
On 25 July 2014 17:59, Joel Bernstein wrote: > On 25 July 2014 18:22, Tom Hukins wrote: > > > We invite anyone who would like to work on anything > > Perl-related to attend. Everyone from complete Perl beginners to > > experts is welcome. > > > > How do you define Perl-related? Perl itself? Per

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Hack Day, Saturday 20th September 2014

2014-07-25 Thread Joel Bernstein
On 25 July 2014 18:22, Tom Hukins wrote: > We invite anyone who would like to work on anything > Perl-related to attend. Everyone from complete Perl beginners to > experts is welcome. > How do you define Perl-related? Perl itself? Perl modules? Apps in Perl? Apps partly in Perl? Apps in Ruby (e

[ANNOUNCE] London Perl Hack Day, Saturday 20th September 2014

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Hukins
On Saturday 20th September, 2014, London Perl Mongers will host our first hack day. We invite anyone who would like to work on anything Perl-related to attend. Everyone from complete Perl beginners to experts is welcome. This event will take place at the London Hack Space between 12pm and 5pm.

Re: Deploying perl code

2014-07-25 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Fri, 2014-07-25 at 12:08 +0200, James Laver wrote: > On 25 Jul 2014, at 11:54, Andrew Beverley wrote: > > > The main problem is that it seems to be a victim of its own success: > > there is a huge backlog of merge requests. I'd like to provide some > > simple patches to a couple of modules to

Re: Deploying perl code

2014-07-25 Thread James Laver
On 25 Jul 2014, at 11:54, Andrew Beverley wrote: > The main problem is that it seems to be a victim of its own success: > there is a huge backlog of merge requests. I'd like to provide some > simple patches to a couple of modules to make them work better for me, > but have little hope that they'

Re: Deploying perl code

2014-07-25 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Fri, 2014-07-25 at 10:11 +0200, James Laver wrote: > Ansible I do like for the most part I'm a fan of Ansible, and am in the process of using it to deploy code (although more by accident than design). The main problem is that it seems to be a victim of its own success: there is a huge backlog

Re: Deploying perl code

2014-07-25 Thread Alex Balhatchet
Hey, We're in a similar boat to Leo for our use of Puppet - used to manage stuff in /etc/ and the general Debian packages we have installed - but mostly we build our own. We have an /opt/lokku/pkgs which contains our own Perl, Apache, Percona DB, node.js, etc. We manage /opt/lokku/bin with swpkg -

Re: Deploying perl code

2014-07-25 Thread James Laver
On 25 Jul 2014, at 09:40, mascip wrote: > and the idempotence: you can run a playbook as many times as you like, it > should > have just the same effect as running it once (true for most Ansible things). That’s in stark contrast to my experiences. I found ansible requires you to think about t

Re: Deploying perl code

2014-07-25 Thread James Laver
On 25 Jul 2014, at 08:52, Ben Tisdall wrote: > However, I would urge you to spend a day each investigating Ansible & > SaltStack, the latter in salt-ssh mode if you want to make a direct > comparison. Both of the aforementioned tools do ad-hoc remote > execution, task orchestration and configura

Re: Deploying perl code

2014-07-25 Thread mascip
I've loved using Ansible on a personal project recently. Almost zero set up and learning. Compared to bash scripts, I love the reuse with Roles, the fact that many tasks and roles exist (Ansible Galaxy is Ansible's CPAN), and the idempotence: you can run a playbook as many times as you like, it sho

Re: Deploying perl code

2014-07-25 Thread Ben Tisdall
>> On 24 July 2014 22:31, Paul Makepeace wrote: >>> >>> capistrano is a (the?) winner for sure. >> I've used Capistrano a bit - it's ok but too much magic for my liking (and in general I'm a big fan of the Ruby ecosystem). Fabric is a more sensible alternative IMO (you might find http://www.slide