Jo has now configured CVS on Penderel, if you have an account on Penderel, you should be able to access it either remotely via ssh or locally i've checked in my 5-minute script that did the nasty depth first search the other day, so you can all mock me for my un-31337'ness remotely it can access via, something like this ... [gem@scully gem]$ export CVS_RSH=ssh [gem@scully gem]$ export [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvsroot/ [gem@scully gem]$ mkdir cvslocal [gem@scully gem]$ cd cvslocal/ [gem@scully cvslocal]$ cvs checkout . cvs server: Updating . cvs server: Updating CVSROOT U CVSROOT/checkoutlist U CVSROOT/commitinfo U CVSROOT/config U CVSROOT/cvswrappers U CVSROOT/editinfo U CVSROOT/loginfo U CVSROOT/modules U CVSROOT/notify U CVSROOT/rcsinfo U CVSROOT/taginfo U CVSROOT/verifymsg cvs server: Updating gem U gem/trans (you'll get pissed off typing your password very soon so will no doubt want to set up authorized_keys and ssh-admin to avoid this) locally it can be accessed via, something like this ... [gem@penderel cvslocal]$ export CVSROOT=/home/cvsroot/ [gem@penderel cvslocal]$ cd ~/cvslocal/ [gem@penderel cvslocal]$ ls [gem@penderel cvslocal]$ cvs checkout . cvs checkout: Updating . cvs checkout: Updating CVSROOT U CVSROOT/checkoutlist U CVSROOT/commitinfo U CVSROOT/config U CVSROOT/cvswrappers U CVSROOT/editinfo U CVSROOT/loginfo U CVSROOT/modules U CVSROOT/notify thanks again to Jo for this, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/