Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-28 Thread Kieren Diment
On 27/08/2009, at 11:29 PM, Dirk Koopman wrote: Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:21:24PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: Then again, I generally swear off paper books for a while whenever I've just moved house and my

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-28 Thread James Laver
On 28 Aug 2009, at 08:33, Billy Abbott wrote: I'm worried that I seem to be turning into a Sony evangelist, but I'd definitely give their Readers a look. I had a play with a Kindle 1 and it was a nasty thing in comparison to the PRS-505 - plasticky and overengineered. The new Kindles are mea

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-28 Thread Billy Abbott
Paul Makepeace wrote The Kindle is one amazing piece of kit; I for one can't wait for it to appear here. And yeah, I don't give a flying f- about Amazon tracking my reading habits or accidentally deleting titles. I'm worried that I seem to be turning into a Sony evangelist, but I'd definite

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-28 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:03:32AM +0100, James Laver wrote: > That said, someone hacked the kindle so you could put non-amazon books > on it. It involves DRMing regular ebooks. > > http://igorsk.blogspot.com/2007/12/mobipocket-books-on-kindle.html Jesse hacked his kindle and got all sorts of

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-28 Thread James Laver
On 28 Aug 2009, at 00:48, Paul Makepeace wrote: The Kindle is one amazing piece of kit; I for one can't wait for it to appear here. And yeah, I don't give a flying f- about Amazon tracking my reading habits or accidentally deleting titles. How about limits on the number of times you can downloa

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Kieren Diment wrote: > > On 28/08/2009, at 9:48 AM, Paul Makepeace wrote: > >> most importantly that will allow me to read it a hell >> of a lot faster than paper. > > How does a decent ereader make reading speed quicker? I don't know but it does, for me. I can pr

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Kieren Diment
On 28/08/2009, at 9:48 AM, Paul Makepeace wrote: most importantly that will allow me to read it a hell of a lot faster than paper. How does a decent ereader make reading speed quicker?

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Robert Shiels wrote: > > Paul Makepeace wrote: > >> >> Paul, can read ebooks way faster than paper ones & searchable... >> >> > Maybe this is a desirable feature for technical books. But for novels, or > coffeetable type books, and other less work related volumes

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Billy Abbott
Peter Corlett wrote: On 25 Aug 2009, at 16:43, David Cantrell wrote: The downside of ebooks is that they're a bit hard to read on the throne, and generally come in awkward formats, just to make them even less useful. Is there an ebook reader out yet that doesn't suck? I swear by my Sony PRS-5

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:17:10AM +1000, Kieren Diment wrote: > > [2] And being the author of a non-free book, I do feel rather conflicted > about seeing my work for free download on the 'net, but I'm confident in > the honesty of people who are a. less skint than me, and b. don't have > the sa

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Kieren Diment
On 28/08/2009, at 12:05 AM, Robert Shiels wrote: Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul, can read ebooks way faster than paper ones & searchable... Maybe this is a desirable feature for technical books. But for novels, or coffeetable type books, and other less work related volumes you're losing a lot

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Robert Shiels
Paul Makepeace wrote: Paul, can read ebooks way faster than paper ones & searchable... Maybe this is a desirable feature for technical books. But for novels, or coffeetable type books, and other less work related volumes you're losing a lot of the joy of reading. Paper books will be around

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:58:23PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: > For exactly these reasons and so many others: ebooks ftw. I'd be > delighted if/when they become the norm and thanks for O'Reilly for > doing this. > > Paul, can read ebooks way faster than paper ones & searchable... E-books have

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:21:24PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: > Perhaps you should institute a policy that if a book isn't reviewed > within a month, it should be handed back for somebody else to have a > crack at it? That relies on people bothering to bring books back to the next social. -

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Dirk Koopman
Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:21:24PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: Then again, I generally swear off paper books for a while whenever I've just moved house and my arms are six inches longer from all the weight. Bu

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:21:24PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: >> >> Then again, I generally swear off paper books for a while whenever I've >> just moved house and my arms are six inches longer from all the weight. > > But you also s

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:21:24PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: > > Then again, I generally swear off paper books for a while whenever I've > just moved house and my arms are six inches longer from all the weight. But you also swear them off before the move, because when looking for a new house y

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Corlett
On 25 Aug 2009, at 16:43, David Cantrell wrote: As an Experiment, Learning Perl and Mastering Perl are now USD9.99 in various electronickal formats. http://use.perl.org/~brian_d_foy/journal/39524 No, I don't remember what the user group discount code is. The downside of ebooks is that they're

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread Dominic Thoreau
2009/8/26 Nicholas Clark : > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:05:49AM +0100, Andrew Smith wrote: > > Don't assume that anyone in particular isn't subscribed to this list already. > Last I knew there were about 600 subscribers, in zones 1 to Inf. > (Although probably no longer anyone Antarctica) If you w

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread Simon Wistow
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 09:39:20AM +0100, Nicholas Clark said: > Don't assume that anyone in particular isn't subscribed to this list already. > Last I knew there were about 600 subscribers, in zones 1 to Inf. > (Although probably no longer anyone Antarctica) 851 on the regular list and 160 on ann

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 01:05:49 Andrew Smith wrote: >>[...]illegal  downloaded pdf's[...] >> >> He sees them, even if you only look >> before buying the book as totally wrong and a criminal offence. > > s/He/Copyright law in most count

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 01:05:49 Andrew Smith wrote: >[...]illegal downloaded pdf's[...] > > He sees them, even if you only look > before buying the book as totally wrong and a criminal offence. s/He/Copyright law in most countries/ T,FTFY. HTH, HAND. Jonathan

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread Norman Cobley
I think you will find there are a few of us on the list with Antarctic experience, although that might have come before we saw the light and discovered Perl ;+) norm -- -- Norman Cobley PhD. Protein Databank in Europe (PDBe) EMBL Outstation - Hin

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 09:46:24AM +0100, James Laver wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > > > (Although probably no longer anyone Antarctica) > > No longer? I'm sure there's a story here. Alex Gough was in Antarctica. The only Perl mention I can find in his blog is

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread Christopher Jones
On 26 Aug 2009, at 09:39, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:05:49AM +0100, Andrew Smith wrote: Don't assume that anyone in particular isn't subscribed to this list already. Last I knew there were about 600 subscribers, in zones 1 to Inf. (Although probably no longer anyone Ant

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread James Laver
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > (Although probably no longer anyone Antarctica) No longer? I'm sure there's a story here. My current client has 'Antarctica' as a special-cased country for people who don't want to participate in educational thingymajigs. --James

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:05:49AM +0100, Andrew Smith wrote: Don't assume that anyone in particular isn't subscribed to this list already. Last I knew there were about 600 subscribers, in zones 1 to Inf. (Although probably no longer anyone Antarctica) Nicholas Clark

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew Smith
Don't let Randal Swartz hear you've got illegal downloaded pdf's. I gave someone a URL for a site with references to available pdf's on the web on the beginners perl mailing list, and was shot down with a barage of RPG's on Good Friday this year. He sees them, even if you only look before

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-25 Thread Brian Wisti
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:43 AM, David Cantrell wrote: > As an Experiment, Learning Perl and Mastering Perl are now USD9.99 in > various electronickal formats. > > http://use.perl.org/~brian_d_foy/journal/39524 > > No, I don't remember what the user group discount code is. > > Incidentally, you m

Re: Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-25 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 04:43:44PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > Incidentally, you may have noticed that I've stopped wibbling about > books being available for review. That's because less than 5% of review > copies that I distributed actually got reviewed, and that's just unfair > on the publis

Cheap perl e-books

2009-08-25 Thread David Cantrell
As an Experiment, Learning Perl and Mastering Perl are now USD9.99 in various electronickal formats. http://use.perl.org/~brian_d_foy/journal/39524 No, I don't remember what the user group discount code is. Incidentally, you may have noticed that I've stopped wibbling about books being availabl